Serbu .50

mrblue357 said:
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Don't believe the hype.
A 50 BMG projectile make at least a minimum 1/2 inch whole that is if there is no fraying from the bullet ripping right threw the paper. Now take jackdanyel statement that at 200 meters he got basically less than a 1 inch whole. That would either be some serious fluke or it would be more like the guy posting sub moa results with his previously banned T97.
Don't believe the hype.
They called me out as a bs'er about the Sebru doing the same thing but now it is know that it is a 2-3 moa gun. AND in 50 BMG semi-auto snipping world that is hella accurate. Basically in 308 world means that it is a 1 to 1.5 moa shooter. Don't also forget that the 50 BMG besides the 22mm Vulcan has the most felt recoil of all rounds. Now if I was you I would check out that bolt action bull-pup that Dlask has for sale. It goes from 308, 338 Lapua to 50 BMG or save up and get an AI/AX in 338 and hit anything that is a human size target out to 2 miles away ;)
 
Well I CAN comment on the accuracy of Kevins Serbu cuz i fired at least 25 rounds thru it from ranges of 500m to 800m. At 700m we had a freshly painted gong that ONLY I shot at with the serbu. They are standard 12 x 24 military kill zone gongs. 5 shot groups were right at 1MOA with PMC ammo. Not one mm more. I was thoroughly impressed with this weapon system. I know Kevin had to do about $250 of gunsmithing to get it running right. Not a big deal in my opinion. It costs HALF what most 50's are going for on this site. Its no MacMillan Tac-50 like im used to but its still pretty friggin awesome.
 
To anybody who PM'ed me and is waiting for a response, just send me another if you did not get a response in a few days. I always seem to have dozens to respond to, and never enough time to do them all, so some fall through the cracks, sorry about that.

Swissinn pretty much nailed it.

Depending on the shooter, and providing he does his part, the Serbu seems to be a fairly consistent 1.00 - 1.75MOA shooter with factory 660gr PMC bronze ammo.

I did have to do a little over $200 in gunsmithing to it to get it running right, and then I put another few bucks into some nice trigger work and adding a longer front and rear picatinny rail. All in I am under $450 in gunsmithing.

I did start to have a few fail to ejects near the end of the day, as I had swapped out the extractor to a lower power one to play with the cycling, and it seemed to be not strong enough to reliably hold onto the fired casing. I will be swapping back to the factory one which did not have any problems before, except for the spent brass would bounce off the rear of the receiver, leaving a small brass mark, akin to swiss arms or AR-15 style rifles.

I own a Steyr HS-50 as well, and they are totally different beasts. They Steyr has a significant potential to be a sub MOA shooter consistently if you reload match quality ammo for it, and it is a beautifully made rifle.

That said, the HS-50 is heavier than the Serbu, it recoils more than the Serbu, it is more abusive to the shooter with muzzle blast and dirt/dust/rocks/snow/etc, are blasted at your face due to the massive brake on the HS-50 when shooting prone, which you don't get from the Serbu...

The downside to the Serbu is that with Canadian ammo, the rifle seems to be, for at least 6 owners whom I have conversed with, not ready to go right out of the box. You need to either run full power reloads, full power factory, or modify the gas port of the rifle to run the lighter canadian ammo. Now that I have done that, the rifle is a sheer joy to fire.

The other downside for some is that they have to modify it out of the box, but so far, for the cost and the enjoyment of the process, I would have it no other way.


I have received offers well over double the value of this firearms purchase cost, and have turned them all down without hesitation. I know when I have a good thing in my hands.


Any other questions, anything general or specific, ask away and I am more than happy to answer either in open forum or PM.

Kev.
 
Frank Castiglione said:
Don't believe the hype.
A 50 BMG projectile make at least a minimum 1/2 inch whole that is if there is no fraying from the bullet ripping right threw the paper. Now take jackdanyel statement that at 200 meters he got basically less than a 1 inch whole. That would either be some serious fluke or it would be more like the guy posting sub moa results with his previously banned T97.
Don't believe the hype.
They called me out as a bs'er about the Sebru doing the same thing but now it is know that it is a 2-3 moa gun. AND in 50 BMG semi-auto snipping world that is hella accurate. Basically in 308 world means that it is a 1 to 1.5 moa shooter. Don't also forget that the 50 BMG besides the 22mm Vulcan has the most felt recoil of all rounds. Now if I was you I would check out that bolt action bull-pup that Dlask has for sale. It goes from 308, 338 Lapua to 50 BMG or save up and get an AI/AX in 338 and hit anything that is a human size target out to 2 miles away ;)
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the 50 has the most felt recoil of all rounds besides the 22 mm Vulcan? sorry, I am not familiar with this round. I have shot a lot of .55 boys and I can tell you that there is considerable more recoil than any 50 I have shot
 
Kevin M. said:
That said, the HS-50 is heavier than the Serbu, it recoils more than the Serbu, it is more abusive to the shooter with muzzle blast and dirt/dust/rocks/snow/etc, are blasted at your face due to the massive brake on the HS-50 when shooting prone, which you don't get from Serbu...
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Weird, I found the recoil extremely light with the Steyr compared to the Serbu, I had no problems letting anyone shoot it but the Serbu I would be more cautious.

Nice to see someone getting some good groupings with the gun with just ball ammo, I'm curious now how match ammo would perform.
 
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Frank Castiglione said:
Don't believe the hype.
A 50 BMG projectile make at least a minimum 1/2 inch whole that is if there is no fraying from the bullet ripping right threw the paper. Now take jackdanyel statement that at 200 meters he got basically less than a 1 inch whole. That would either be some serious fluke or it would be more like the guy posting sub moa results with his previously banned T97.
Don't believe the hype.
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Pouhaha.. i got nothing but a good info in there ....... http://www.hunteroc.com/2012/Steyr_Arms_PR3.html
 
Frank Castiglione said:
Don't believe the hype.
A 50 BMG projectile make at least a minimum 1/2 inch whole that is if there is no fraying from the bullet ripping right threw the paper. Now take jackdanyel statement that at 200 meters he got basically less than a 1 inch whole. That would either be some serious fluke or it would be more like the guy posting sub moa results with his previously banned T97.
Don't believe the hype.
They called me out as a bs'er about the Sebru doing the same thing but now it is know that it is a 2-3 moa gun. AND in 50 BMG semi-auto snipping world that is hella accurate. Basically in 308 world means that it is a 1 to 1.5 moa shooter. Don't also forget that the 50 BMG besides the 22mm Vulcan has the most felt recoil of all rounds. Now if I was you I would check out that bolt action bull-pup that Dlask has for sale. It goes from 308, 338 Lapua to 50 BMG or save up and get an AI/AX in 338 and hit anything that is a human size target out to 2 miles away ;)
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thanks again for the input. do you have any hands on experience with these?
 
I really like the look ,

But look like a big AR with no LAR mag...

Speed limit sucks for all Ferrari and you can' t shoot really faster than a bolt action, so i personally prefer a bolt action for reliability and longer barrel for accuracy, and long shot.

I read a lot about Steyr , prefer a Honda than a Ferrari. One day, i will buy an Honda.

And if i can after my Honda , i will buy a Ferrari, if the Speed limit will be remove....

But again It' s a very beautiful piece :) congrats... and thanks for the video..
 
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