Serial number of Lee Enfield No.4 MkI

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Hello,

I'm trying to register my Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.I 1941 ROFM.
However, the CFC lady told me that the serial number (i sent them: 16035) on Lee Enfields not only includes numbers but also one (or more) letter(s), which can be located at a different place then the numbers... :confused:

So please help me and tell me what's that letter she's talking about...
All I see is the " (F) FTR" which i know means "factory re-built at Fazerkeley".

Could it be possible that the F before the FTR constitutes that "letter-which-is-part-of-the-serial-number" ?? or would it rather be the very small "N" (or "Z") that is stamped on the left side of receiver at the junction with the barrel...indicated by the red arrow. There is either "57" or "67" stamped just besides it... This "N" is also found on top of the barrel, just in front of the chamber area.

Here's the pictures.

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BTW, would somebody sell me a buttstock to match the forend/handguard set, which I bought from another gunnut. He told me that this set was original british walnut from the early 50's. It has a deep burgundy color, which doesn't fit at all with the yellow-ish, sanded and re-varnished buttstock.
If someone's interested, i can trade off this nice buttstock with the sporterized forend it came with.

Thank you,
Sniper1
 
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I've heard of another fella out here in Alberta getting jerked around with this same B/S recently. Maybe the same lady? :onCrack:
 
A 1941 Maltby, which you have, would have had only numbers initialy, and then started with an A prefix.
Your rifle obviously was later FTR'd at Fazakerley and the same number was electropenciled on the reciever and barrel as well as the original stamping on the buttsocket.
The CFC lady is a prime example of a little knowledge being dangerous.

Other than finding someone else to register the rifle, I can only suggest sending her those same pics of the reciever and buttsocket.;)
 
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The complete,accurate aerial number for this rifle is 16035. No letter prefix or suffix. The cryptic mark you have highlighted with the arrow is nothing to do with the serial. The F is for Fazakerly, it is not serial related.
Call back, and try for someone else. She is probably trying to verify the firearm sight unseen. You need to speak to a different psychic. If worse comes to worst, you migh have to locate a real live local verifier who will actually get to see the rifle.
 
Thanks for the help guys. Will contact the CFC and sort out this issue.

This is a prime example that the long gun registry is a total waste of federal funds... imagine; this Enfield was verified and registration application was sent thru their website on August 2005 !!! Yes august 2005 and no news afterwards, until I called them earlier this month... two years after... why wasn't I contacted before ? superb administration.
 
"...total waste of federal funds..." That they get from us.
Your butt stock looks like it might be birch or beech with the rest being walnut. Finding a walnut butt stock may or may not be difficult in the Montreal area. If and when you do find one, that doesn't mean the finish will match. It'd be easier to make it match though.
 
When I registered mine last yr, it took 10 months and many phone calls to get it all settled due to the same problem as you have. The woman on the phone was explaining there should be a letter infront of the numbers, but what is stamped in front of the numbers is illegible on my #4. After many calls she let me use just the numbers since there were only 2 other rifles registered with the same numbers and they were not # 4's.

My rifle also has two colored wood.
 
It took approximately three years for me to get my registration papers for my long guns. I kept thinking the pigs would beat down my door and arrest me any day for having unregistered firearms. I was half scared to enquire because I thought I might be charged with something.

I finally got fed up and phoned the Firearms Center, asking where the papers were. I was told in apologetic terms that the papers were sent to my old address in Toronto by mistake, and that was the reason for the delay. I said thanks and the forms finally arrived in about two weeks after the call.

The only things is, I have never lived in Toronto. I did not bother to argue with the pencil pushers, but it makes you wonder.

BB
 
Sounds like she is trying to use the FRT as the guide as to what is proper on an Enfield. Problem is that the FRT has a few lines on each gun, but when it comes to Enfields there have been 300 page books written that still don't have it all correct. There is an old expression with Enfields that you "never say never, and never say always".

The nice lady on the phone is just that.....a nice lady on the phone. She has likely never shot a gun in her life, much less have an insane interest in Lee Enfields. She has to go by what she sees on the FRT.

To top it off, the FRT is one of the RCMPs fundraisers. They sell copies to other interested governments and commercial interests.
 
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