Seriously?

Here's 15rnds in a 16" UZI barrel.

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daBear said:
The site from which this pic is borrowed, also states that he has seen worse. He has also encountered a gun with so many bullets lodged in the barrel that the cylinder would no longer turn. Takes a whole new kind of stupid to accomplish that task..
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Hey, I resemble that remark...lol.
That is exactly what happened to mine.
What a PITA to get working again.
 
Lexthedestroyer said:
I don't even own an AR; but in the first video, he keeps smacking the forward assist. Unless his rifle is extremely fouled, something is preventing the round from being chambered (read that: the rifle going fully into battery). Looks like an accident waiting to happen. In the second video, after blowing the magazine out of the magwell, I would stop and at the VERY LEAST field strip the thing. Probably have a smith look at it.
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Some people strike the forward assist every time because they are trained that way, or saw it in a movie once. Its not hard to get a feel for a forward assist strike that does nothing, versus hearing that click of the BCG going into battery. Every time I hit the forward assist and it actually does something, I investigate why it didn't go into battery the first time. Its usually user error, like a sling interfering with cocking handle, etc. I've seen fouling be the issue with some people, but it has to be pretty filthy, or neglected for that to be the cause.

As for the second vid, You can hear that no round gets picked up from the second mag when he cocks it. That should be an indicater. We also then see the new mag fall out. I'm curious if that's because of simple user error and not making sure the mag was properly seated, or if because the frame of the rifle was deformed and magazine catch was no longer able to reach the magazine properly. After something exploded, I definitely would have called it a day right there, and gone back to the lab.

I've only been reloading for about 3 years, and have only made about 5,000 rds or so. Never had a FTF. Two in a row? Definitely would have stopped there to investigate. I'm especially curious about the relationship between FTFs, Magazines exploding, and bullets lodged in the barrel.

I suspect overheating causes the first two, with the 3rd being somewhat unrelated, other than the user failing to notice.
 
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I've never wrecked a gun, but I did try to chamber another round after getting g a squib once. It was at a local IPSC practice night and the clock was running. I racked the slide to chamber another round, it didn't chamber fully so I reloaded and tried again before realizing something was wrong and stopping. The primer pushed the bullet into the rifling, but not far enough to let the next round chamber, lucky for me. I was shooting a norinco 1911. I didn't notice that the first round didn't sound right, and neither did anyone else. With the clock ticking, I was completely focused on clearing what I thought was a jam. I popped the bullet out with a cleaning rod and the gun was fine.
Kristian
 
An un-noticed squib load is probably the most dangerous thing that can happen to a shooter. I only had one experience in my life and it happened almost 30 years ago. Was shooting my P-220 and had a FTE. I was a noob shooter back then and was never told about squibs. So I nonchalantly cycled the action to chamber another round and brought the gun back on target. Then I got this weird feeling and decided to check my gun. Lo and behold, the bullet was 3/4 ways up the barrel and stuck! After unjamming it, the next round fired. I would have blown my gun up! Thank god this was the 80s and I was only target shooting then. I can't imagine what would have happened if I was a novice and was shooting IPSC or IDPA like turbo_bird was !!
 
That's the thing while under the timer...
The shooter is responsible for their actions and equipment,
The RO with the timer is watching your actions primarily (hands/gun).
The score keeper (second RO) is watching for foot faults and target engagement, etc...
So IF a RO stops you and your barrel is clear, you get a reshoot, if the barrel is obstructed it's score as shot.
But if you get new RO's or a score keeping RO who figures they're just scorekeeping stopping the shooter becomes iffy at best.
Then there's the whole issue of did anyone hear it...
I quit wearing electronic earmuffs because I could not hear every shot clearly, depending on wind, angle to the shooter, etc... regular shots were occasionally sounding like squibs...
A lot of times the shooter is under stress (new- nervous, good- don't want to loose) and is on auto pilot to correct and continue.
The dynamics really change once the timer comes out.
Happily I'm at the point of when in doubt- stop. We're all racing for a 25 cent certificate- it isn't worth injury or damage and we all show up with extra ammo..
I usually have a length of cleaning rod with me or a pencil (when RO'ing); once the pistol is cleared safe with the action open either the rod/pencil will enter the breach, or not...no need to disassemble on the line (IMO).
 
I saw this happen to a 6 in colt python I had sold a fellow years ago,
I was not present at the event, but he filled the complete barrel full with
hornady full wadcutters till he could not open the cylinder, at home he opened it with a hammer
and bent the crane
Than he phoned me and wanted his money back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know what happened after that.
A friend of mine bulged a nice new match barrel in my 1911 he was shooting
for the ist time with some light paper punch load I was using and had no powder load ,
primer drove the bullet 1\2 way down the barrel and he pulled the trigger again befor I could stop him.
Was my fault for not checking my powder drop, never hurt the colt, but the barrel was toast.
 
07blackwater said:
Watch at 1:10.

The proper way to handle it.

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Good reflexes on both parties involved.

Very good shooting discipline AFAIC.
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Had it happened to me once with aGlock 17, exept i tap/rack/boom! The 2 bullets exited the barrel and the gun survive. The barrel was ruined thou. I replace the barrel and keep the bulged one hanging below my reloading bench as a reminder.
 
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