Set Trigger Carcano ?

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I was looking at a sporter today that I would believe to be a Carcano at one point. Looked to be cut down with basic leaf sights and a missing Det. mag that only looked to be long enough for a small varmin round. The receiver only had the marking "6.5mm" and there was a set of set triggers which I found interesting. Seller was looking for best offer....there was no but plate or rear sling swivel...Ill try to go back and get pictures...anybody have an idea ?
 
Sounds to me like it's a "Cooey Carcano" , Cooey imported them 1n the 1920s and sold them through Eatons. They were retrofitted to shoot the 6.5 Schoenauer, and not the normal military 6.5 Carcano round, people were shooting the more powerful Carcano round through them with scary results. From what I understand, Eaton's issued a recall for these rifles, but obviously not all of them were returned.
I've seen them priced from $50-$150 depending on condition.
 
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ok, what would be the chance at finding a magazine for those ?

I think the orginal carcano was shooting a .268 bullet ? and this one would shoot a .264 as the regular 6.5 MS ?
 
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Actually, the Carcano uses an en-bloc CLIP and not a Charger. The Charger is designed to strip cartridges out of it into the magazine, while the clip is designed to be filled with cartridges and inserted into the magazine, where it remains until the last cartridge is loaded, or is released while partly full by the shooter. The M-1 Garand uses an eight round Clip.

The Carcano utilizes a six round clip, and it is pushed down from the top into the magazine until it catches on the release and stays in place. The rounds are stripped off and the magazine follower is narrow enough to come upwards to push the cartridges up so that the bolt will pick them up. When the last round is loaded into the chamber, Gravity lets the clip falls out the bottom of the magazine. If you need to unload the rifle before all the cartridges are used, then you open the bolt, and push the clip release which will force the clip and remaining unfired cartridges upwards where you can grab them.

Carcano clips can be lost after they have exited the rifle. Some people put a simple sheet metal tab over the exit hole so that the clip does not come out the bottom, but can be removed from the top.

I agree with the identification of the rifle as a Cooey Carcano.
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All Carcanos, including the Cooey conversions, are loaded with a Mannlicher Clip of a special size. UNLIKE the Austrian Mannlicher clips, the one for the Carcano is REVERSIBLE and may be oaded either-side-up.

The SLOT in the bottom of the Magazine is for an expended Clip to drop free of the Rifle. Being that Clips are scarce and expensive these days, you might wish to put a strip of masking tape across this Slot. THE CLIP DROPS FREE WHEN YOU CHAMBER YOUR FINAL ROUND, NOT when the Rifle is empty. To "Show Clear" you must open the action and eject the round in the Chamber, as with any other rifle. A artly, full Clip may be REMOVED from the Rifle by opening the Action, ejecting the round in the Chamber, pressing the Clip Release Button (inside the front of the Triggerguard) while pressing down on the top round in the Magazine; removing pressure allows the Clip with unused Rounds to eject vertically and slowly.

The Clip holds 6 rounds but the Bolt cannot be closed over a full Clip, so capacity of the rifle is actually 5+1: 5 in the Mag, 1 up the pipe.

JP (on this forum) says that he has some Carcano Clips for sale. His prices, from what I have seen, are pretty good. Send him a PM; he checks here daily.

There is actually very little difference between the 6.5x52 Carcano cartridge and the 6.5 Mannlicher-Schoenauer round....... just enough for trouble. EITHER ONE will fit the Carcano clips and feed with no problems.

BTW, ALWAYS load this rifle from the Clip. Tossing a round up the pipe and slamming the action shut can completely wreck an Extractor.... and usually does. There were 3 different types of Carcano extractor, so you can ee the possibilities for real problems! Incidentally, this ALSO goes for any Mauser variant, INCLUDING the '98.

The Carcano action is a modified Mauser type with a distinctive Carcano safety which removes all compression from the Mainspring and locks the Bolt. This peculiar safety also permits the operator to remove the entire firing assembly of the bolt in a single chunk. But the Carcano safety was designed for military purposes and it is NOT foolproof. With the Safety APPLIED, there is no compression on the Mainspring; the rifle will not fire if you pull the Trigger. It WILL, however, fire if you allow the firing-pin to run forward (by pressing the Trigger and pushing) and then strike a SUDDEN BLOW on the back of the Firing-Pin, so BEWARE!

You will hear TALES that the Carcano action is weak. There is NO substance to these tales; the action is, if anything, quite overengineered for its purposes. Friend ANDY (on this forum) did a spectacular series of TESTS on a Cooey Carcano, culminating in the near-destruction of the rifle. This test has its own thread; it is fascinating reading.

Hope this helps.
 
I have 2 of them and would not take $75 for either of them.

They have Cooey-made 8-groove barrels and they are a GREAT little rifle for Deer, even in heavy bush. They equal a .30-30 in POWER but they have MUCH better stability, penetration and bush-busting capability. Only other rifles taking the MS cartridge are a handful of Winchester Model 54s and the Greek 1903 military rifles as well as the commercial Mannlicher-Schoenauers..... which happen to cost a LOT more than you want to know about. This is just about as good a RIFLE for about 5 cents on the dollar, even though the action is stiffer.

FIND that thread by ANDY about these rifles; it has some very good photos in it of things you should know.

And if you take it apart, so NOT let your Cat near that tiny screw!!!!!!!!!!
 
I agree it would be a very handy little bush Carbine...but i cant be sure this one would shoot very well...depends on how the bore cleans up...lots of rifling but some evident rust in a dark bore..hard to tell without some real elbow grease.
 
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