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Overconfidence has nothing to do with it. The day that I can't see a no powder or a double powder charge in a case is the day I quit reloading. I have had more issues of almost having a no or double charge using my single stage presses and zero using the LNL.
If you look around on the different sites you will see issues with any of the powder check systems no matter who the oem is.
Dillon has about the best powder check system of anyone and they still have issues with it missing no or double charges.
So relying on one is being overconfident is it not?
Yup, I used to do the same thing - a complete re-start when I had a FU on the Dillon AND used both visual and the alarm system. That was when I was reloading handgun cartridges solely with it - mainly many many thousands of .357M and .45ACP. I did a couple of runs of .44RM with it. I went back to a single stage process with it as well as I was mainly loading for my rifle. I never did any 9mm as it was cheaper to buy reloaded at the time (ten years ago - no idea what cost is like now), than pay the same or more for the required components.
I have always reloaded my rifle cartridges on a single stage with either 50 or 100 rounds done at each stage. Each and every cartridge gets looked at visually with a flashlight to confirm powder level (every charge is weighed too) while in a 50 round loading tray. No exceptions. This includes .357, .44, 45-70, .223, 30-30, 6.5CM, .308, 300WM. Yes, I guess I am a little anal about it. Then again, I only have to satisfy one person, me, and I make damn sure to make the best ammo I can.
I have always reloaded my rifle cartridges on a single stage with either 50 or 100 rounds done at each stage. Each and every cartridge gets looked at visually with a flashlight to confirm powder level (every charge is weighed too) while in a 50 round loading tray. No exceptions. This includes .357, .44, 45-70, .223, 30-30, 6.5CM, .308, 300WM. Yes, I guess I am a little anal about it. Then again, I only have to satisfy one person, me, and I make damn sure to make the best ammo I can.
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The manual is good and all, but I watch a setup or caliber change video on youtube when it's been a while. There's tons of them and some of them are pretty good and better than reading a book.
I don't "rely" on a powder check die, nor did I ever suggest such a thing. The powder check die is an added safety measure which you seem reluctant to adopt. Why can't you run a powder check die, eyeball the case, check every 50th round, and wipe the shell plate clean of casings if/when interrupted? Too much safety for you?
You keep bringing it back to the LNL never making a mistake. The LNL isn't the weakest link, YOU ARE!!!
I'm sure your many years of experience has it all covered, so I doubt you need to worry.
Ok, I'm done.
Cheers.
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Buddy not sure what you are reading but you might want to read post 20 again. Nor have I said anything about how YOU do things but you seem to want to make assumptions about me personally.
This has gone so far off the rails of the original post.
Hi all;
It's all just personal preferences. Had I ever not checking the powder randomly since I had the lockout die? No..I have to check, because it is my life and someone else's life that is at stake if I mess up my loads...But, do I think my LNL will make mistake if I am not? No..because machine doesn't make mistake as often as we do...so, check the powder when you think you should, and use whatever powder cop die you like to get that extra layer of insurance..you are the one in charge, be perfect at it
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Keep doing whatever it is working for you, and be safe.
Happy shooting and reloading everyone
It's all just personal preferences. Had I ever not checking the powder randomly since I had the lockout die? No..I have to check, because it is my life and someone else's life that is at stake if I mess up my loads...But, do I think my LNL will make mistake if I am not? No..because machine doesn't make mistake as often as we do...so, check the powder when you think you should, and use whatever powder cop die you like to get that extra layer of insurance..you are the one in charge, be perfect at it
. Keep doing whatever it is working for you, and be safe.
Happy shooting and reloading everyone
A lot of good points in this post!
I was under the same opinion when I purchased dillion powder check die/system. But I noticed that free floating plunger that goes into the case will actually take powder out as it sticks to the plunger. It doesn't matter what I do to clean it...it always happens. Have you experienced this?
The real reason why I took it out was because it take powder but because I installed MR. Bullet Feeder and I don't believe you can run both systems on 650.
Cheers,
I was under the same opinion when I purchased dillion powder check die/system. But I noticed that free floating plunger that goes into the case will actually take powder out as it sticks to the plunger. It doesn't matter what I do to clean it...it always happens. Have you experienced this?
The real reason why I took it out was because it take powder but because I installed MR. Bullet Feeder and I don't believe you can run both systems on 650.
Cheers,
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Ordered a powder check die last night with a few other bits and pieces
I just built my new bench and am wondering where is the best place to mount the presses (650 and Forster Co-Ax)
They will be on stands (Unimount for the Dillon and Dillon stand for the 650) and I`m thinking near the end/quite near the front for both (650 on the left and Forster on the right) which will leave me as much space in the middle and behind the presses as possible
I have the bullet feeder tray to mount on the 650 and will most likely do the same on the Forster so even if they are mounted near the ends they don't need a lot of real estate as everything they require is pretty much self contained around them
Thoughts? These are the sizes for the bench - Overall size: 47-13/64 x 23-39/63 x 60-3/4" (120 x 60 x 154.3 cm)
I just built my new bench and am wondering where is the best place to mount the presses (650 and Forster Co-Ax)
They will be on stands (Unimount for the Dillon and Dillon stand for the 650) and I`m thinking near the end/quite near the front for both (650 on the left and Forster on the right) which will leave me as much space in the middle and behind the presses as possible
I have the bullet feeder tray to mount on the 650 and will most likely do the same on the Forster so even if they are mounted near the ends they don't need a lot of real estate as everything they require is pretty much self contained around them
Thoughts? These are the sizes for the bench - Overall size: 47-13/64 x 23-39/63 x 60-3/4" (120 x 60 x 154.3 cm)
You'd have to seat and crimp in the last station, similar to this:
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Here are two simple solutions for the powder sticking to the brass plunger.
1) Polish to a mirror finish with Flitz or similar.
2) Clean and apply some form of powder graphite.
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You might give a drier anti-static sheet a wipe or three on the plunger.
