[SFRC] Derya Pump-Action Lineup | DYPA-12 9mm, DYPA-16 9mm & TM22 PA-18 .22 LR | New Stock | TheAmmoSource.com
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I too pre-ordered for the original stock version from SFRC and I just received mine (telescopic stock version). I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I can try to provide some information.
Comments here are correct. It does not have a mechanism that locks the pump once it's forward (like a traditional pump shotgun). In fact, you can pull it back anytime, regardless of whether you've fired yet or not (which I guess is kinda nice since it makes it fairly easy to clear the chamber and make it safe). Which probably explains why it doesn't have the latch / button that pump guns have to release and pull back. It is a littttle stiff, but if you run it a bit it gets better. I think part of why it "feels" stiff to rack is because the forend is, IMO, a little on the small side, and it's slobbered in grease / oil so it's slippery. I plan on putting textured MLOK panels on the forend to bulk it up and make it easier to grip onto.
Just from dry cycling dummy rounds, I had no issues with ejection. I mean, it's manual action. I did notice that when you insert the magazine there isn't really a definitive click indicating that the magazine is seated correctly. So you "might" insert the magazine too far or not far enough. I've found it more foolproof to shove the magazine in with the forend pushed forward; that seems to seat the mag in fairly well.
Also - I'm not sure if this will happen to other people, but the red paint on my safety switch wipes off pretty easily
which I thought was pretty funny. I think after my next clean there won't be any red left . Doesn't really bother me since I rarely use safety switches at the range and I make my guns safe by opening the chamber and using chamber flags, and this gun is super easy to rack open.
Love the size though - small, compact, lightweight. I really missed a compact PCC. I've been a little hesitant on the homesteader because of the absurd barrel length and bulkiness.
Thank you Derya for thinking of us Canadians. and thank you SFRC for your excellent service
Comments here are correct. It does not have a mechanism that locks the pump once it's forward (like a traditional pump shotgun). In fact, you can pull it back anytime, regardless of whether you've fired yet or not (which I guess is kinda nice since it makes it fairly easy to clear the chamber and make it safe). Which probably explains why it doesn't have the latch / button that pump guns have to release and pull back. It is a littttle stiff, but if you run it a bit it gets better. I think part of why it "feels" stiff to rack is because the forend is, IMO, a little on the small side, and it's slobbered in grease / oil so it's slippery. I plan on putting textured MLOK panels on the forend to bulk it up and make it easier to grip onto.
Just from dry cycling dummy rounds, I had no issues with ejection. I mean, it's manual action. I did notice that when you insert the magazine there isn't really a definitive click indicating that the magazine is seated correctly. So you "might" insert the magazine too far or not far enough. I've found it more foolproof to shove the magazine in with the forend pushed forward; that seems to seat the mag in fairly well.
Also - I'm not sure if this will happen to other people, but the red paint on my safety switch wipes off pretty easily
which I thought was pretty funny. I think after my next clean there won't be any red left . Doesn't really bother me since I rarely use safety switches at the range and I make my guns safe by opening the chamber and using chamber flags, and this gun is super easy to rack open.Love the size though - small, compact, lightweight. I really missed a compact PCC. I've been a little hesitant on the homesteader because of the absurd barrel length and bulkiness.
Thank you Derya for thinking of us Canadians. and thank you SFRC for your excellent service
Ended up ordering one of these.
So the bolt is held in battery by spring pressure alone, is there any sort of bolt hold open or way to lock it in the rear position to leave the chamber open?
Any chance the people who received there's could give any idea of specs? Not a lot of info on these. Actual weight? Overall Length? Any idea of the buffer tube is a standard size?
So the bolt is held in battery by spring pressure alone, is there any sort of bolt hold open or way to lock it in the rear position to leave the chamber open?
Any chance the people who received there's could give any idea of specs? Not a lot of info on these. Actual weight? Overall Length? Any idea of the buffer tube is a standard size?
Thanks for the feedback!I too pre-ordered for the original stock version from SFRC and I just received mine (telescopic stock version). I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I can try to provide some information.
Comments here are correct. It does not have a mechanism that locks the pump once it's forward (like a traditional pump shotgun). In fact, you can pull it back anytime, regardless of whether you've fired yet or not (which I guess is kinda nice since it makes it fairly easy to clear the chamber and make it safe). Which probably explains why it doesn't have the latch / button that pump guns have to release and pull back. It is a littttle stiff, but if you run it a bit it gets better. I think part of why it "feels" stiff to rack is because the forend is, IMO, a little on the small side, and it's slobbered in grease / oil so it's slippery. I plan on putting textured MLOK panels on the forend to bulk it up and make it easier to grip onto.
Just from dry cycling dummy rounds, I had no issues with ejection. I mean, it's manual action. I did notice that when you insert the magazine there isn't really a definitive click indicating that the magazine is seated correctly. So you "might" insert the magazine too far or not far enough. I've found it more foolproof to shove the magazine in with the forend pushed forward; that seems to seat the mag in fairly well.
Also - I'm not sure if this will happen to other people, but the red paint on my safety switch wipes off pretty easily
Love the size though - small, compact, lightweight. I really missed a compact PCC. I've been a little hesitant on the homesteader because of the absurd barrel length and bulkiness.
Thank you Derya for thinking of us Canadians. and thank you SFRC for your excellent service
If SFRC didn't adjust the price it's the first "bait and switch" I can think of where the price was good and in the end the buyer got more then they expected....
Given there is no lock other then spring pressure, I assume the gun action cycles into the closed position easily due to the spring pressure.... I would think once it's broken in and free from storage grease etc it will only need to be pulled back to extract and eject and then the spring pressure should be enough to cycle in the next round and put the bolt into it's closed position ready to fire.
Is there any mlok slots on the bottom of the foreend? From the pictures it didn't look like it, but a small stubby vertical grip would be nice if the foreend has bottom slots and is strong enough.
This gun will likely be similar to the Taipan where the operator needs to keep some forward pressure on the foreend to avoid opening the action unintentionally.
Thanks for this overview.I too pre-ordered for the original stock version from SFRC and I just received mine (telescopic stock version). I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I can try to provide some information.
Comments here are correct. It does not have a mechanism that locks the pump once it's forward (like a traditional pump shotgun). In fact, you can pull it back anytime, regardless of whether you've fired yet or not (which I guess is kinda nice since it makes it fairly easy to clear the chamber and make it safe). Which probably explains why it doesn't have the latch / button that pump guns have to release and pull back. It is a littttle stiff, but if you run it a bit it gets better. I think part of why it "feels" stiff to rack is because the forend is, IMO, a little on the small side, and it's slobbered in grease / oil so it's slippery. I plan on putting textured MLOK panels on the forend to bulk it up and make it easier to grip onto.
Just from dry cycling dummy rounds, I had no issues with ejection. I mean, it's manual action. I did notice that when you insert the magazine there isn't really a definitive click indicating that the magazine is seated correctly. So you "might" insert the magazine too far or not far enough. I've found it more foolproof to shove the magazine in with the forend pushed forward; that seems to seat the mag in fairly well.
Also - I'm not sure if this will happen to other people, but the red paint on my safety switch wipes off pretty easily
Love the size though - small, compact, lightweight. I really missed a compact PCC. I've been a little hesitant on the homesteader because of the absurd barrel length and bulkiness.
Thank you Derya for thinking of us Canadians. and thank you SFRC for your excellent service
I posted my thoughts after handling one in-store for about 5 minutes:
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...t-action-9mm-pcc.2560530/page-7#post-21299778
I'm not much of a gun reviewer, so if there's anything you can add to my comments (particularly, what its actually like ro shoot) to help others decide if this is the rifle for them, please share your insights there.
Thanks again!
