Shadow 2 carbine kit.

[OkayShooter]

Taking a pistol and slapping it into a chassi and calling it a rifle is, like modern day society and I idenfy as.

Having used a KPOS, and owning a Hera Arm CPE, personally there are better carbines out there. They tend to not shoot as smooth and are clunky.

 

[Canuck44]

Taking a pistol and slapping it into a chassi and calling it a rifle is, like modern day society and I idenfy as.

Having used a KPOS, and owning a Hera Arm CPE, personally there are better carbines out there. They tend to not shoot as smooth and are clunky.[/QUOTE

You can call it a car if you want.

IPSC has decided that a Kidon with a pistol is a PCC. A bureaucrat in Ottawa says it is a revolver wrapped in a stock. The lawmakers in the US decided it is a Small Barreled Rifle. It can be whatever the powers that be say it is. There was a time when a pistol was a firearm that was designed to be shot with one hand. Colt read the tea leaves and decided to make a rifle by mating a buttstock into the frame. put a long barrel on it and call it a rifle. You can buy replicas of that gun today and it still is called a rifle. Our criminal Code says if you do exactly the say thing it remains a pistol even though the replicas I mentioned are rifles. The function is the same but the definitions as to what they are is different. Who wrote the definition of a pistol in the Criminal Code, I assume, didn't want folks making their own rifles out of their pistols. Manufactures could do it but individuals can't I guess. I have no issues with the decision but it makes no sense.

What PP indicated to me and others at his rally here in Terrace, was his government would re-write the Firearms Act. His government intends to change the method of Classification of firearms, and make it so no future Government by way of OIC or by ordering bureaucrats to classify firearms on their own. I have no idea how but lets see what he comes up with. There will remain three Classes just what goes where will change as well as the definitions. He implied the way the guns operate and their intended uses would dominate the Classification and not a picture of what someone thinks is a dangerous firearm or by it's name. aka AR-15, CX4 Storm, and Scorpion. That would be a major win for us. Personally I would like to see any replica of an Antique black powder pistol be in the same class as Antiques are now. I have held two 1858 Remington revolvers. Aside from the patina of the original it was identical to the replica and in as good a shape.

Take Care

Bob

 

[tiriaq]

Taking a pistol and slapping it into a chassi and calling it a rifle is, like modern day society and I idenfy as.

Having used a KPOS, and owning a Hera Arm CPE, personally there are better carbines out there. They tend to not shoot as smooth and are clunky.[/QUOTE

You can call it a car if you want.

IPSC has decided that a Kidon with a pistol is a PCC. A bureaucrat in Ottawa says it is a revolver wrapped in a stock. The lawmakers in the US decided it is a Small Barreled Rifle. It can be whatever the powers that be say it is. There was a time when a pistol was a firearm that was designed to be shot with one hand. Colt read the tea leaves and decided to make a rifle by mating a buttstock into the frame. put a long barrel on it and call it a rifle. You can buy replicas of that gun today and it still is called a rifle. Our criminal Code says if you do exactly the say thing it remains a pistol even though the replicas I mentioned are rifles. The function is the same but the definitions as to what they are is different. Who wrote the definition of a pistol in the Criminal Code, I assume, didn't want folks making their own rifles out of their pistols. Manufactures could do it but individuals can't I guess. I have no issues with the decision but it makes no sense.

What PP indicated to me and others at his rally here in Terrace, was his government would re-write the Firearms Act. His government intends to change the method of Classification of firearms, and make it so no future Government by way of OIC or by ordering bureaucrats to classify firearms on their own. I have no idea how but lets see what he comes up with. There will remain three Classes just what goes where will change as well as the definitions. He implied the way the guns operate and their intended uses would dominate the Classification and not a picture of what someone thinks is a dangerous firearm or by it's name. aka AR-15, CX4 Storm, and Scorpion. That would be a major win for us. Personally I would like to see any replica of an Antique black powder pistol be in the same class as Antiques are now. I have held two 1858 Remington revolvers. Aside from the patina of the original it was identical to the replica and in as good a shape.

Take Care

Bob

The Liberal firearms agenda could be carried out following that outline. Semi auto? Doesn't matter what it looks like. Bad, ban.

 

[Canuck44]

I guess you missed about making it so the Classification could not be changed. The Liberals are about to do exactly what you are suggesting. Are you paying attention?

If PP can devise a plan where the Classification are fixed you wouldn't have the RCMP deciding out of the blue all 858 go from unrestricted to banned after how many years of being sold here? I guess whatever he does according to you it is a waste of time. Try thinking outside the box or just thinking. Make all semi autos nonrestricted and could only be changed by 9 out 10 Provinces agreeing to the change via Legislation and we would be Golden.

Take Care
Bob
PS Gunnutz reading post "ya but what happens if "Trudeau the 4th gets elected in Ft. McMurray, AB and decides to have the Alberta Govt vote with Quebec and Ontario to increase the transfer payments to both if they join Alberta and Sask. in banning Semi Autos?" you are amazing!
PPS The PS would happen right after earth gets hit by three asteroids hit earth all on the same day outside of Ottawa

 

[tiriaq]

I guess you didn't notice that I said the Liberal firearms agenda could be carried out using that guideline...

As far as the Conservatives go, their hearts may be in the right place, but I'm not sure they really comprehend the mess that exists, and how difficult it would be to remedy. Staying with the three class classification system isn't changing what is fundamentally wrong. Using legislation rather than OICs and RCMP interpretations makes it harder to classify things, also harder to relax classifications. And the Liberals just used legislation to harden their OIC handgun freeze.

The revolver carbine reproductions to which I think you are referring (sort of hard to read) tend to have different receivers than the handgun version. You may remember the Canada Scout, a German made .22 revolver carbine. It got restricted when it was noticed that it had a handgun frame with the stock attached with socket head screws. The currently available reproductions of the Remington revolving carbine, both cartridge and cap have integral tangs to mount a buttstock. Different receiver, different classification.

 

[Canuck44]

Yes I did notice. Using the three Classifications using different criteria is what I was driving at. By receiver I assume you are referring to grip. The repo guns are just revolvers with an attached buttstock and a. longer barrel. You and I know it is all subjective based on "if we can, we will".

PP must have advice indicating there is a way to effectively freeze Classification of a designated type or model of a firearm. If PP could tie any future changes in the criteria to a set number of Provinces having to agree to the changes similar to how our Constitution can be amended criteria changes would be virtually impossible to achieve by a future Liberal Govt.

If Trudeau wis the next election all semi auto firearms will be prohibed.

Take Care
Bob

 

[Snider shooter]

I have revolving carbines , the receivers ( frame) is different than a regular revolver. You can’t attach a pistol grip on them without major modifications. Has to do with the way the butt stock attaches and totally different spring system. Rear of the receiver is totally redesigned.