Shadow vs m&p9 pro

No competition Btwn these two choices. Hands down CZ SP01 Shadow is absolutely the gun to go with for target/IPSC shooting! Great all round value gun for yer money and will take you far in IPSC Production if and when you go that route. Which I also highly recommend! Am sure a dozen or more posters will chime in shortly with same opinion. Just go buy it!
 
They are completely different guns, ones all steel da/SA other is polymer with basically a 5 lb + SA Everytime.

For range use and competition I'd go with the shadow.
 
Shadow.....whilst the M&p pro has a good reputation...the shadow is a legend....just target or serious competition....
 
Chase a Shadow down off of the EE. There have been some excellent buys there. The M&P Pro trigger can be 5#+ or for IDPA reduced to just over 3#'s without much effort. You are interested in IPSC where the Shadow has rules for sometime. It isn't a target pistol but can be tuned to be very good. Guys can guide you on the springs you might want to replace if you intend to use it for IPSC.

Take Care

Bob
 
Which one fits your hands better? Which one points better for you? Both are good guns, I have both and use both for ipsc with no issues. With the shadow dont forget you will have to manually lower the hammer after loading and before holstering, with the m&p being striker fired no hammer to lower. Both good guns try both if you can.
 
I started in IPSC with the M&P Pro, used it for about two seasons, then got a CZ Shadow and have used that since. The shadow is likely the more competitive pistol, but my friend has an M&P and still uses it for IPSC and still manages to beat me at least half the time. At our level, it's more skill (or lack of) than the equipment.

If you haven't done the black badge course yet, and aren't especially familiar with a particular type of pistol action (like a DA/SA action) then a striker-fired pistol like the M&P is much easier to learn on. This is because you won't have to fiddle with the safety. There is a lot to learn at the black badge if you're a new shooter (and apologies if you're not) and I found the less you have to focus on working the mechanics of the pistol, the more you can concentrate on the skills involved (safe holster use, movement, etc).

With a CZ you're either going to have to manipulate the safety off and on frequently, or learn to lower the hammer with a round in the chamber (probably not something you're going to want to do if you aren't extremely comfortable with the pistol).

Now if you want to do accuracy style target shooting, the CZ will give you tighter groups (depending on the skill of the shooter, of course). The M&P is not known for it's tight groups, although apparently that issue may be better now, with later models having the bugs ironed out.

Or just do like I did, and buy both :)
 
trav70 said:
I started in IPSC with the M&P Pro, used it for about two seasons, then got a CZ Shadow and have used that since. The shadow is likely the more competitive pistol, but my friend has an M&P and still uses it for IPSC and still manages to beat me at least half the time. At our level, it's more skill (or lack of) than the equipment.

If you haven't done the black badge course yet, and aren't especially familiar with a particular type of pistol action (like a DA/SA action) then a striker-fired pistol like the M&P is much easier to learn on. This is because you won't have to fiddle with the safety. There is a lot to learn at the black badge if you're a new shooter (and apologies if you're not) and I found the less you have to focus on working the mechanics of the pistol, the more you can concentrate on the skills involved (safe holster use, movement, etc).

With a CZ you're either going to have to manipulate the safety off and on frequently, or learn to lower the hammer with a round in the chamber (probably not something you're going to want to do if you aren't extremely comfortable with the pistol).

Now if you want to do accuracy style target shooting, the CZ will give you tighter groups (depending on the skill of the shooter, of course). The M&P is not known for it's tight groups, although apparently that issue may be better now, with later models having the bugs ironed out.

Or just do like I did, and buy both :)
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Shooting production you would never touch the safety on a Cz. It can only be applied when hammer is locked back on SA. Yes start condition on a mp is much easier, than having to drop the hammer on the Cz. Proper technique and your good to go, I usually do the thumb block and roll during matches. Practice I just ease the hammer forward. Haven't had any issues so far. But my accuracy has gone way up on my cz vs g26.
 
I own both, there are aspects I love about each. If I had to carry it all day and it was a duty gun I'd take the m&p, lighter, less garbage on the side of the gun I.e safety, slide stop.
But honestly the shadow is the more accurate, softer shooting better on the range gun.
 
Thanks for the input guys. Iam not a new shooter. But iam definitely new to ipsc and I don't have a black badge yet. But I think that's my biggest debate is the striker fired vs sa/da. It was limited but I have held and shot both guns. And both felt good in my hands and to shoot. But iam kinda leaning towards the m&p just for the ease of use. But everyone raves about the shadow.
 
Have both. The cz is a phenominal gun out of the box. Trigger is excellent, sights are good and the heft means limited recoil. Practice dropping the hammer and it becomes anon issue. I also have 3 m and ps i acquired more recently...5 inch 9 pro, range kit 9 and a 45. The pro is a great gun. Trigger is pretty good and the sights are up to the task. Its easy to take apart and parts are plentiful. I just put the flat faced apex trigger and warren tactical sights on the 4.25 inch 9 and it transformed the gun. Unbelievable difference. Cant go wrong either way. Both are great. Neither are all that expensive so try noth. Only thing i like better about the m and p is the 511 retention holster vs the blade tech style i have fpr the cz.
 
Northaways said:
No competition Btwn these two choices. Hands down CZ SP01 Shadow is absolutely the gun to go with for target/IPSC shooting! Great all round value gun for yer money and will take you far in IPSC Production if and when you go that route. Which I also highly recommend! Am sure a dozen or more posters will chime in shortly with same opinion. Just go buy it!
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