Sharps 1874
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This sort of questions are usually addressed on the blackpowder forum. Thats where the real men hang out.
I was wondering if any one has had a chance to examine the Chapparral Arms and Davidi Pedersoli Sharps 1874 model offered by Marstar and how they compare for quality.
No, but if you haven't why the thumbs down?
I am sorry about that, I am blind , I thought it was a question mark
Those Italian Sharps do not compare to the 2 Montana made Sharps...Shiloh Sharps and C. Sharps..........and what I've seen of the prices,they cost near the same. Shiloh Makes their own barrels and C. Sharps use Badger barrels, probably the best BP or cast bullet barrels made. In competition these are the 2 names seen in the winner circle, better fit, better steel, properly dimensioned, no comparison. Now ask me which is better? C. Sharps or Shiloh?
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Any idea what the wait is on a Shiloh these days Ben? 3 years or so last I heard...
There is a good reason that people will wait that long thou. The couple of C. Sharps I've seen look good too.
That said I think that the Pedersoli guns are a lot better in quality than they used to be but I haven't taken a really close look at their Sharps in a long time.
There is a good reason that people will wait that long thou. The couple of C. Sharps I've seen look good too.
That said I think that the Pedersoli guns are a lot better in quality than they used to be but I haven't taken a really close look at their Sharps in a long time.
I like your C sharps you hound. 2 shilohs on the way with a quigley being made as we speak. I went with the 45/70 again. Next time maybe a 45/110. What would you suggest?
Shiloh has some in stock. Also google "Bill Goodman" and he will sell you one. Otherwise the wait is about a year I am told
Well you know, I'd still like to wring out a '74 in 40/65 or 40/70, even just for a month or so. A friend has a very special featured Shiloh on the way in 40/90 Sharps, he got through Bill Goodman, but with all the special features i think it still took him 6 months or so. Bill may have some plainer guns on hand, I know C. Sharps always has some already made ones including '74s, '75s, and '85s.
What is the difference in recoil between a 45/70 and a 45/110?
I was wondering if any one has had a chance to examine the Chapparral Arms and Davidi Pedersoli Sharps 1874 model offered by Marstar and how they compare for quality.
You might want to check out these forums for info.
BPCR.net
Shiloh rifle. com
Cast boolits. gunloads.com
Lots of good reading on different topics....
sharps
It is enough after 40 or 50 rounds in an afternoon you may very well ask your self why you ordered it.
Have a 45-100 and it can start to get old after 40 or so rounds. First 15 or so arn't to bad.
Ken.
It is enough after 40 or 50 rounds in an afternoon you may very well ask your self why you ordered it.
Have a 45-100 and it can start to get old after 40 or so rounds. First 15 or so arn't to bad.
Ken.
vagrantviking
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6 months to get a Shiloh isn't bad. That 3 years might have been for a custom and it was a few years back. (I've never been too interested in Sharps myself).
Shot a few 45-110 and 45-120's over the years. Never more than 5 rounds and that was just about enough. Depending on the weight even a 45-70 can get rough after a long day (80 or 100 rounds +). Never met anyone who does a lot of shooting with anything bigger than 45-90.
Shot a few 45-110 and 45-120's over the years. Never more than 5 rounds and that was just about enough. Depending on the weight even a 45-70 can get rough after a long day (80 or 100 rounds +). Never met anyone who does a lot of shooting with anything bigger than 45-90.
Well then Vagrantviking, you haven't met me, i shoot my 50/90 every chance i get, it's my favourite bench gun, my go to hunting rifle. I usually shoot 40 or 50 rounds at a session, i have my buckhorn sights regulated for all ranges up to 300meters where the pig silhouette targets take an awful slammin. Doesn't matter what bullet I use 530 gr., 630gr. paper patch, or 690 spitzer it causes havoc wherever it hits.
vagrantviking
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I've shot a few .50's too but they never seemed quite as bad as the big 45's for some reason. Bit more like a shotguns push to them maybe...
Still thou, that gun must fit you nice if its not a problem to shoot that much. Or, more likely, I'm just a wuss.
Still thou, that gun must fit you nice if its not a problem to shoot that much. Or, more likely, I'm just a wuss.
I've shot a few .50's too but they never seemed quite as bad as the big 45's for some reason. Bit more like a shotguns push to them maybe...
Still thou, that gun must fit you nice if its not a problem to shoot that much. Or, more likely, I'm just a wuss.
No, not a wuss....if you shoot it enough eventually you become comfortable doing it....I know because at first it rattled my chimes and now I enjoy burning up copious amounts of Black Powder....
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A 45-110 is (IMHO) more of a curiosity than a practical cartridge for BPCR Silhouette. If you just want to whang away at distant targets it would be great, but to shoot 60 rounds in a regular match day of BPCR (or God-forbid, shoot a 60 round match and run the round count up to 80) and you'll be nursing a battered shoulder and a wicked flinch. The 45-100 and up in a rifle that makes NRA spec weight just generates too much recoil to be any amount of fun for an extended shooting session. Hell, I shot 4, 40 round, matches in 3 days (I wanted to make up a weekend of shooting I missed to compete for SK provincials) and by the end of it all I was just plain wore out. The first day I shot two matches and by the end I had to be up around 110-120 rounds. Glad I did that early (and shot my best scores of the weekend) because by Sunday I was shooting like crap. If I had shot in two relays on Sunday I would have been completely hooped. Still, I won the AA class provincials (thank goodness I didn't shoot a breakout score and have to compete with the AAA shooters).
The Italian Sharps' are decent and would serve to get a person into BPCR Silhouette shooting. They are no Shiloh or Christian, nor do they purport to be. But all the Shilohs I've handled (and I've handled a lot of them through the club) are things of beauty.
Still, if I was buying another one, I'd go with a Lonestar Rollingblock. Now if only Higginbotham could be convinced to build a Hepburn...Are you listening Dave???
The Italian Sharps' are decent and would serve to get a person into BPCR Silhouette shooting. They are no Shiloh or Christian, nor do they purport to be. But all the Shilohs I've handled (and I've handled a lot of them through the club) are things of beauty.
Still, if I was buying another one, I'd go with a Lonestar Rollingblock. Now if only Higginbotham could be convinced to build a Hepburn...Are you listening Dave???
I have a 50-90 also and it is way way nicer to shoot than mu 45-100 and both weight pretty close to the same.
As Ben posted above if you are going to do sillywet shooting look at the 40-65 or the 45-70 they are probably the most common of all the calibers on the BPCR shoots.
Ken.
As Ben posted above if you are going to do sillywet shooting look at the 40-65 or the 45-70 they are probably the most common of all the calibers on the BPCR shoots.
Ken.
