Sharps Rebarrel

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Easyrider4590

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I need to rebarrel my Shilo Sharp's 1874, Farmingdale rifle. Shilo will rebarrel it for $650 US, but the cost and aggravation of a cross border deal makes it an unattractive solution. Any number of gunsmiths here in Alberta are happy to rebarrel it, but with a round stainless barrel, which is not ideal. Any suggestions where I can get a match grade, blued octagon barrel made in Canada?
Thanks
Glen
 
Thanks for the response, Snider. Are you suggesting ordering a barel from Shilo, through an importer? If so,that won't work, as Lucinda at shilo said they "dont sell barrels out the door". Or do you know of other suppliers?
 
Contact one of the importers and see what they are able to get. They have sites setup on the US side that could possibly deal with US companies. Costs for them to do this but it cuts out a lot of hassle. Basically the only way to get barrels from the US is through an importer.
 
Snider shooter said:
Basically the only way to get barrels from the US is through an importer.
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I used to have ML barrels shipped here from the US all the time when I was building but that was 20 years ago. They were always shipped as "precision machined tube" and shipped direct to me. However, That was a LONG time ago and of course a LOY has changed since then. I was not aware that an importer was required now but, not surprised. I was, at one time going to buy all of Bevan Kings equipment and start making barrels myself so that we would have a supplier IN Canada, but never did. Don't know what happened to all his stuff when he passed.
 
I forgot about machine tubes I bought acouple of them a few years ago. Last time I tried ordering them it was a no go. My understanding is that some of the companies got fined under export laws in the USA or got threatened with fines so that stopped.
 
When I last ordered a barrel from Ron he was happy to sell a round blank, but was not interested in milling it to octagon.

Bits of Pieces in Delta can order you an octagonal Green Mountain barrel.

What is your current barrel and what are you changing it to by the way?

Chris.
 
The existing barrel is from Shilo, I assume original to the rifle. I bought the rifle well used, about a decade ago, and didn't do much with it. I got interested again, and have been shooting it. I discovered that the bore is badly pitted (took it to a gunsmith), so I need a new one. Whether it was pitted from my neglect, or the previous owner's is irrelevant. I have been shooting black powder for 40 years, so I'm pretty confident it wasn't me (my story and I'm sticking to it). The other issue with the barrel is, that being a Farmingdale rifle, it has too much Freebore, making it more challenging to get it to shoot well.
 
Sending it back to Shiloh is the best bet. You may also Try CPA Rifles in the US who do quality work. Douglas Barrels, Krieger Barrels, and green Mountain all excellent barrels. See if some here can import one for you and have a competent smith install it. Shiloh's 45-70 bore is .450" and groove diam. is .458" you will need to determine ROT depending on your bullet.
 
It might be worth asking PR Cook here on CGN if this would be something he would be prepared to undertake.
 
I was talking with a nice fellow at our range the other day and he said he sent his Pedersoli to Harry Remple to fit a new Green Mountain barrel to it. He was very happy with the work done. I have a C. Sharps highwall with a Green Mountain 1:16 twist #5 barrel that shoots quite well so I think those barrels are OK.

Chris.
 
I'm thinking a Green Mountain blank from Track of the Wolf or some other "good side of the border" supplier that has already been cut Oct. is going to be your best financial solution.
Lots of barrel manuf in Canada that could cut you a 4140 blank and get a machinist with a big enough manual milling machine to cut the flats but pretty sure this option will be in the Shilo price range tho.
 
Have you considered the possibility of saving your barrel and having an insert put in it? I know Ron Smith has done a lot of that and there may be others in Canada who could do that for you at much less cost.
 
I think shilo is my best bet. I am waiting to hear from Borderview firearms in Abbotsford, about the import/export thing. Places like Prophet River can only import, so they can't do the deal. I know about the bore dimensions, bullet sizing, and twist rate., but if I deal with shilo, they will get it right.
 
fingers284 said:
I'm thinking a Green Mountain blank from Track of the Wolf or some other "good side of the border" supplier that has already been cut Oct. is going to be your best financial solution.
Lots of barrel manuf in Canada that could cut you a 4140 blank and get a machinist with a big enough manual milling machine to cut the flats but pretty sure this option will be in the Shilo price range tho.
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Bits of Pieces is a regular importer of GM barrels. I bought a fast twist .375" octagonal barrel from him several years ago. I don't remember the price but it was reasonable at the time.

Chris.
 
Easyrider4590 said:
I think shilo is my best bet. I am waiting to hear from Borderview firearms in Abbotsford, about the import/export thing. Places like Prophet River can only import, so they can't do the deal. I know about the bore dimensions, bullet sizing, and twist rate., but if I deal with shilo, they will get it right.
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I didn't mention it earlier because it sounded like you didn't want to go that way, but that is exactly what I would do if it were my rifle. Shiloh just does such good work, and it would be the best for resale value if you ever decide to sell it. If you have the earlier style firing pin, you could get Kirk to update that too. Then spares would be easy to get.

Chris.
 
UPDATE
I just heard back from Borderview Firearms, the customs
guy in Abbotsford who Shilo uses for this kind of thing. They want
$299 +5% of the value of rhe rifle to take it across the border. Then they UPS it to Big Timber,
at my expense. Shilo fixes it for $650 US, then UPS back
to orderview
(at my expense), who then brings it back into Canada, for another
$299+5% of the value of the rifle. Then Canada Post brings it to me, at my expense.
Canada Post brings it here, also at my expense.
 
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