Sharps tang sight and hunting

wilmunny

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Hello, I’ve just purchased a Pedersoli 1874 Sharps Hunter and am in market for a tang sight. Calibre is 45/70. Loading reloads in smokeless and eventually BP.

Question I have is what are thoughts on a good tang for hunting and some target. Target shooting to 600m. Hunting to 200 or maybe 300 if my skill is honed enough.

Should I also get a tunnel front? Or will it further limit light?

Thx for thoughts.
 
You will need a larger hole in the eyecup on the tang sight as the light dims to the magic hour of last light. Check out what Montana Vintage Arms for sights… yes they are expensive but they are the best
 
Source a tang sight that has a "Hadley" aperture available to it....that is if your dead set on a vernier rear sight , my least favorite for hunting, target acquisition can be almost impossible at times for different reasons, shaded targets being the biggest.

I would very much recomend a barrel open sight as a better option for hunting.
 
It takes a tall sight to reach out to 600
heres an econo version, missing some of the features of higher-end Soule or MVA, but cheap enough to get into the game and try one.
(thanks to a Cgnutter who sent me the link)
shooterschoice.com/shop/brand/pedersoli-brand/pedersoli-sharps-creedmoor-adj-windage-elevation/
 
You wont need as much elevation adjustment as the internet would lead you to believe. I bought a 4 inch tang sight (Pedersoli Soule "long range" from Marstar) to shoot 1000m as per internet recommendations......now im realizing that only half that amount is really required. I got 2 inches of useful sight travel and another 2 that will only serve to snag on things and hit the brim of my hat.

I was shooting 500m just yesterday with 405gr Campro bullets over 35grs of IMR4198 (1600fps). Sight was only at .430" of the 4 inch travel range lol.

Also have since realized that i really miss being able to have unimpeded access to the chamber (most rear tang sights block it so you can neither see it or pass a cleaning rod thru). So I ordered the Pedersoli Goodwin Gen 2 sight from Shooters Choice. Its 2.5 inch travel range seems more appropriate for the distances I'll be shooting.

The Hadley eye cup is a must for low light shooting. I bought the Pedersoli one and it fits on multiple Pedersoli tang sights.
 
I don’t like covered front sight with aperture’s for hunting. In perfect light they would be okay.

Those vernier sights rock for targets but for hunting a ladder style barrel sight I think would be my choice if shots inside 300 yards.

If you practice enough i think you will find that you can shoot just as accurate with barrel sights as you can with vernier tang sights.
 
Ladder rear sight on the barrel and a fo front sight is a good combo but depending on shape can be a little coarse, being meant for close work
add a Marbles tang sight for more precision pre-set for 150ish and its all covered
 
I was shooting 500m just yesterday with 405gr Campro bullets over 35grs of IMR4198 (1600fps). Sight was only at .430" of the 4 inch travel range lol.
.43 ? whats your numbers for 100/200/300/400/500 ?
My 38-55 with 255 gr is up over 2". Must be the speed difference plus maybe front sight height
Certainly taller with a vernier-type than could be achieved with a barrel-type marbles/Lyman sight
 
My late lamented C.Sharps 1875 was equipped with a "mid-range" vernier sight for target/range use which was lovely, but I found it terrible for hunting; bulky, way too tall, awkward when casing/uncasing, just an all around PITA. I eventually located a much simpler tang sight, similar in form to the Lyman Ideal, which could be mounted to the same base as the mid-range job. Thus I had the highly-adjustable, long-range vernier for range use and could easily and quickly switch to the Ideal-style hunting sight. The hunting sight did not go out much beyond about 400 yards, which is much further than I would ever shoot while hunting, but it was very compact and sleek and also much more resistant to accidental mis-adjustment in the field. It had a vertical staff with a threaded socket to accept various sizes of apertures, and I usually just used it without anything installed, letting it function as a ghost-ring.

I left the barrel-mounted sight in place as well; it was sighted for short range, about 75 yards, while the tang was sighted for 200. Perfect!

Except...it wasn't. On the occasion of shooting my first...and so far only!...elk, the animal fell to the shot motionless and I approached it through the intervening 100+ yards of brush. As I came close, the cow began to struggle to her feet. I was not really surprised by this, and had the gun in a low ready position. I quickly threw it to my shoulder and squeezed off a shot, but at some point while traversing the brush the aperture staff had gotten halfway folded down. My quick snap shot was taken instinctively using the barrel-mounted sight. The staff, folded down towards me but not all the way against the tang, was driven by recoil into my cheek putting a nice jagged hole through it right into my mouth.

From then on, my rifles that have tang sights have the barrel-mounted sight removed, hopefully to prevent a reoccurrence of that little adventure.

Here are my two current favourite hunting aperture-sighted single shots: First, an Uberti 1885 with the open barrel sight replaced by a ladder-style unit. Yes, that is a plain old 3/8-inch flat washer epoxied over the open vee on the crosspiece. Works beautifully with a front bead, globe with inserts or flat-top post. Mine has an old Dockendorff tunnel with a brass crosshair.
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And here's a Henry single shot, with a Marbles Bullseye aperture in place of the open rear sight and a red fibre-optic bead up front. :) Not exactly uber-traditional, but lots of fun and very effective.
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.43 ? whats your numbers for 100/200/300/400/500 ?
My 38-55 with 255 gr is up over 2". Must be the speed difference plus maybe front sight height
Certainly taller with a vernier-type than could be achieved with a barrel-type marbles/Lyman sight
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Unfortunately ive only saved the 400m & 500m settings, lost my 100m zero and 300m recordings, and never shot 200m lol. I do remember the 100m zero being notably below 0 (maybe .05" ish) on the Vernier. Ive since initiated the process of developing a load for the 450gr Campro Spitzers... which i haven't shot past 100m yet.
 
Since this conversation first started, Ive spent A LOT more time behind the Pedersoli Soule style tang sight setup and have since deemed them absolutely USELESS for hunting anything but a big black Bison standing out on the bald a$$ Prairie during the bright of day!

The sights are impressively accurate in both shot placement and tracking. They are extremely repeatable between range outings. But holy cow do they ever require perfect target contrast to the surrounding environment ! Like take what you see with the naked eye, and half its distance.... thats the limits of what ull be able to pick up through the Pedersoli hooded front globe and rear tang Verniers in even overcast conditions. In terms of Sunrise and Sunset lighting situations, I wouldnt even bother.

Even for target shooting its become a bit of detractor. Im very tempted to mount a scope just so I can reliably locate the often sub optimal gong setups I end up engaging with friends.
 
you can buy a eyecup that has multiple holes ...Hadley eyecup ...not sure what thread the Pedersoli has but I have many on my MVA I know that you are prob using something like that but as you say light has to be perfect and target has to be black on white or white on black.
Most silhouette ranges if possible are built for morning sun , to light up the targets on the berms...even the MVA Malcolm scopes with 3/4 tube are great on targets but the crosshairs / mil dot get lost on anything else
 
even the MVA Malcolm scopes with 3/4 tube are great on targets but the crosshairs / mil dot get lost on anything else
I havent found that, have used a couple different length 3/4 brass scopes to kill deer and found them quite capable, longest distance i killed a deer with one was 245 paces (45-70 RB). Site picture for that shot was hold over to just see deer's back in the field of view.
 
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