Let me know what y'all think!
My 7600 30-06 A.K.A "The Meat Seeker" Don't drives tack with 165's like she does with 180's...Any you other fellers have this conundrum with yer 7600? My pa's friend had a old box of 165 grain core lokts, they shot real good. But I've tried some federals and remington 150's and 165's and she just don't fire em like the big old round nose 180 grain core lokts...Do elaborate! I realize twist is a big deal, from what I can figure it's a 1:9. She don't shoot federals worth a hooey anyway no matter the grain, blue box anyhow. On a side note, I'd like to reload but It kinda gives me the heeby jeebies.
Let me know what y'all think!
I suppose this is a case where you have to weigh the merits of trying to fix something that isn't broke; your rifle likes 180's, so stick with 180's. On the other hand, handloading allows you to try different powders, bullets and COAL to find something that shoots well in your rifle. I was originally under the impression that my .223 didn't like lighter bullets until I loaded them up so they were about 10-thou off the rifling. Now 50gr pills group under an inch.
BTW - Great name for the rifle
180 is an excellent weight to be stuck with. It has the right penetration for moose and does not blow up a lot of meat on deer. One thing you can do is buy some more of that same ammo that worked well and be done with it.
You want to know why it won't shoot 165s. First, twist has nothing to do with it. Twist is an obvious variable in barrels and therefore gets blamed for every anomaly. Unless you are trying to shoot a 215 gr VLD, twist has nothing to do with your rifle results.
As stated by someone else, the round nose bullet is closer to the rifling. This might be the reason, but I doubt it. Remington cuts chambers with very deep throats (for legal reasons, not ballistic reasons). Every bullet has a huge jump to the rifling in a Remington.
Some rifles will shoot many different loads fairly well. others will be very fussy. For the latter you have to try various brands and bullets to find what the rifle likes. If you rifle is fussy, a flat based bullet is usually the best choice.
A poor barrel will do best with a round nose bullet. Is your barrel in good shape? no rust or pitting? Has it been well cleaned? Put a wet patch through it and let it sit muzzle down over night and see if a new patch comes out blue in the morning. If it does, your barrel is not clean.
How big are the groups with the two bullet weights? If both are accurate enough for their intended use, I would not be too concerned.
That being said, you can't really go wrong with 180 grain bullets in a .30-06.
It sounds like you don’t reload so you won’t be able to tailor a load to your firearm. Many firearms like certain powders, a brand of factory ammunition, bullet weights, powder weight, COL, etc. The list is almost endless with what you can do when you reload or with purchasing over the counter ammunition. If it appears your firearm likes the heavier bullets so try to find a box of 220 grain ammunition and see what happens. Since the firearm seems to like Core-Lokt try the 220 Grain Core-Lokt Soft. If you reload try 220 Grain Jacketed Round Nose bullets and 57.5 grains of H4831. I am sure you will be impressed and remember the 7600 is not meant to shoot sub MOA.
Is you shootin standin up?
I think you need to get past the heeby-jeebies and start handloading. Handloading allows you dimensional influence over your rounds that factory stuff doesn't, and having influence over the dimensional characteristics of your cartridge will have an effect on accuracy. A long bearing surface as is common with a round nosed bullet, makes up for many ills. In my experience a 760/7600 is often a better shooter than an out of the box bolt gun of similar value. If the twist is indeed 1:9, that would be unusual for a Remington .30/06 which to the best of my knowledge is always 1:10, but whether 1:9 or 1:10, it doesn't make any discernible difference in practical accuracy with hunting ammo. You could do worse than those 180 gr Corelokts, so if you won't handload, just stick with them.
The 7600 in .30-06 has a 1 in 10" twist. Both of the .30-06 models I have like the heavy bullets. One of them hovering around the 1/2 moa mark with a handloaded 180gr Hornady SST the other one hates them but will shoot sub-moa with the 180gr BTSP Hornady Interlock and 200gr Speer GS bullets. I have always been a "heavy for caliber" believer so I never really tried loading lighter bullets for them.
No 2 guns are alike and they will all shoot differently but with that being said, I've played around with 7 different Remington 7600 rifles and carbines and have yet to find one that will not shoot MOA or better with at least one load!
I wasn't sayin its a bad thing it not shootin lighter bullets! I'm partial to the big club nose core lokt 180's they plow through some ####e to get there! Just wonderin why it didn't like the lighter stuff. I shot a deer in the head at 30 yards two years ago with it I love the core lokts, just wanted some lighter stuff to blow up woodchucks with.
I had a weird A-Bolt Medallion in 7mm Remington Magnum that wouldn't shoot anything over 145 grains well (139/140 was best). Spent years with that gun trying to get it to shoot 150's to 175's and nothing came of the development. Weird. Gun was brilliantly accurate with light rounds but fell apart as the weight increased. Still one of my most accurate guns when the weights are in it's preferred range. I've come to accept that as just being a part of the gun's personality.
If you get into handloading (and you really should) give the Speer TNT 125gr. bullets a try!!! At around 3100fps they vaporize the big chucks...especially when they give you that perfect shot...just laying there on their dirt pile facing you! There's no guessing as to whether or not it is a hit! LMAO!
I had a weird A-Bolt Medallion in 7mm Remington Magnum that wouldn't shoot anything over 145 grains well (139/140 was best). Spent years with that gun trying to get it to shoot 150's to 175's and nothing came of the development. Weird. Gun was brilliantly accurate with light rounds but fell apart as the weight increased. Still one of my most accurate guns when the weights are in it's preferred range. I've come to accept that as just being a part of the gun's personality.
Yes, this stuff happens.
Buddy of mine had a Ruger M77 in .338 win mag that shot bugholes with 200 grain bullets, about 2" with 225's and about 6" groups with 250's. He tried about every bullet and powder he could get his hands on, inlcuding round nose bullets, but the thing just hated heavier bullets.



























