Sherman tank for sale at Collector source

[mkrnel]

If you miss out on this one, not to worry their are lots of them around in Canada already, here are just a few -

Borden

Owen Sound

Barrie Armoury

Alberta

London Ontario

Sherbrooke, Quebec

Trois-Rivieres, Quebec

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Gatineau, Quebec

Montreal, Quebec

Quebec City, Quebec

Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu Miltary College, Quebec

Stanstead Legion, Quebec

Trois-Rivières, Jean Victor Allard Armoury, Quebec

CFB Valcartier, Quebec

Winnipeg

Halifax

Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan​

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Haliburton Branch #129 of the Royal Canadian Legion, Ontario

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Goderich, Ontario

Toronto

Calgary, Alberta

Kingston, Ontario

Royal Canadian Legion, Chilliwack​

CFB Gagetown, New Brunswick

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Meaford Karte, Grey County, Ontario

Moncton, NB.

Ottawa
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[tiriaq]

Well, if I win the lottery tonight, I've found a place to store it and drive it.....

Was past the one at the Haliburton Legion today.

 

[Rifleman1911]

Wow. That would be cool to own. I can imagine how fun it would be to work on. I am in the middle of replacing the kingpins on my 93 Ford and it is a bit#h of a job. Imagine having to pull the front of that tank to work on the drives. Whew. ��. Not to forget finding parts.

 

[antiqueguy]

If you miss out on this one, not to worry their are lots of them around in Canada already, here are just a few

most if not all the ones you posted are welded shut and stripped inside

 

[bogusiii]

most if not all the ones you posted are welded shut and stripped inside

Too true. The one in London at Wolseley Barracks is so high up in the rear end you just know there are no engines in it. To me a welded up tank on a concrete pad with 12 layers of flaking paint is nothing even close to a real, live moving beast. But on the other hand, owning and driving one is not all rosy as some here might think. Beyond the cost and never ending repairs is the simple truth that driving them is greasy, sweaty, noisy (and nervous if there's anything around to squash) hard work. You grin a lot but at the end of the day your wife won't let you in the house without a hose down.

 

[XRCD011]

considering its nickname was tommy cooker I doubt it but unlike German tanks it could be worked on in the field

Just out of curiosity but how many ex-WP tanks, Shermans or German WWII have you worked on ??

 

[antiqueguy]

Just out of curiosity but how many ex-WP tanks, Shermans or German WWII have you worked on ??

by design the Sherman or even Russian t-34 is much easier to work on while the German tanks for instance you need to take the hole tank apart to get to the drives on most of them

 

[scott585]

by design the Sherman or even Russian t-34 is much easier to work on while the German tanks for instance you need to take the hole tank apart to get to the drives on most of them

easier is a very relative term. when was the last time you pulled a motor out of a car? now imagine if the hood was 6 feet off the ground, and the motor weighs about 10x as much as the one in the car (my slant 6 and trans is 900 pounds, a sherman multibank engine alone weighs 5000 pounds) change a set of spark plugs? there are 60 of them inside an armoured box.

how about the t-34. you change the starter and steering clutches out through a single ~16" diameter hatch, but to open it, you have to undo 7 bolts, or you undo a couple dozen bolts, and you get to open a steel plate that is about as thick as your wrist and 2ft x 7ft. sure hope you ate your wheaties. changing airfilters? 2 guys, probably an hour without power tools, and you have to change em every 25 operating hours

 

[fenceline]

The missus says I can buy the tank if I raise the money through pop bottle and beer can refunds.

 

[antiqueguy]

easier is a very relative term. when was the last time you pulled a motor out of a car? now imagine if the hood was 6 feet off the ground, and the motor weighs about 10x as much as the one in the car (my slant 6 and trans is 900 pounds, a sherman multibank engine alone weighs 5000 pounds) change a set of spark plugs? there are 60 of them inside an armoured box.

how about the t-34. you change the starter and steering clutches out through a single ~16" diameter hatch, but to open it, you have to undo 7 bolts, or you undo a couple dozen bolts, and you get to open a steel plate that is about as thick as your wrist and 2ft x 7ft. sure hope you ate your wheaties. changing airfilters? 2 guys, probably an hour without power tools, and you have to change em every 25 operating hours

I don't know if you have seen the military wreckers of the time but they are big enough to do the job.

last engine I pulled was a few weeks ago took me all of a hour to do so and your slant six with trans should weigh around 600 to 650 unless its filled with lead most v8's are around that

 

[scott585]

I don't know if you have seen the military wreckers of the time but they are big enough to do the job.

last engine I pulled was a few weeks ago took me all of a hour to do so and your slant six with trans should weigh around 600 to 650 unless its filled with lead most v8's are around that

the slant has alot of cast iron, you can go .120 over without much issue, the cast iron head can be milled 1/8" on a good casting. trans is a 904, weight includes fluids. bare cast, machined head is 65-70 pounds alone, crank can be as much as 80 pounds in an early motor. the point is that everything on tanks is huge, and impossible to get at. if you protect something better, its harder to fix when it wears out, the issue with german tanks was not that they were hard to work on, it was that they were time consuming to make, i read about a panther pulled from a bog that was made late in the war, the bearings for the road wheels were made well enough to last hundreds of thousands of kilometers, the tank was lost within 20km of the train that delivered it. russian tanks required the track and suspension be disassembled before 1000 miles, but they figured the tank wouldnt last that long most of the time. the 2 truths about armoured vehicles are that anything that keeps bullets out, lets water in, and anything that keeps bullets out keeps mechanics out too.

the wrecker may have been big enough to do the job, but it wasnt as simple as a car, the tracks on a centurion tank weigh 5 tons per side iirc, and they dont roll like tires, you have to get a machine and drag them. you also need alot of space, the crane has to be moved around the vehicle, the tracks stretch out for a long way if you have to remove them. there is no single person job on an armoured vehicle because opening most access hatches to even start takes 2 people.

the tiger could have the final drives changed by braking the track, un bolting it, replace it and reconnect the track. dont even need to get inside

you can see the drive bolted on in this picture

 

[Darkw]

Wow

 

[Coyote Ugly]

Looks like they used a SkyHook to suspend the Turret in the black forest...

the slant has alot of cast iron, you can go .120 over without much issue, the cast iron head can be milled 1/8" on a good casting. trans is a 904, weight includes fluids. bare cast, machined head is 65-70 pounds alone, crank can be as much as 80 pounds in an early motor. the point is that everything on tanks is huge, and impossible to get at. if you protect something better, its harder to fix when it wears out, the issue with german tanks was not that they were hard to work on, it was that they were time consuming to make, i read about a panther pulled from a bog that was made late in the war, the bearings for the road wheels were made well enough to last hundreds of thousands of kilometers, the tank was lost within 20km of the train that delivered it. russian tanks required the track and suspension be disassembled before 1000 miles, but they figured the tank wouldnt last that long most of the time. the 2 truths about armoured vehicles are that anything that keeps bullets out, lets water in, and anything that keeps bullets out keeps mechanics out too.

the wrecker may have been big enough to do the job, but it wasnt as simple as a car, the tracks on a centurion tank weigh 5 tons per side iirc, and they dont roll like tires, you have to get a machine and drag them. you also need alot of space, the crane has to be moved around the vehicle, the tracks stretch out for a long way if you have to remove them. there is no single person job on an armoured vehicle because opening most access hatches to even start takes 2 people.

the tiger could have the final drives changed by braking the track, un bolting it, replace it and reconnect the track. dont even need to get inside

you can see the drive bolted on in this picture

 

[stencollector]

We pulled the power pack out of the Jagpanzer at work. The disconnect didn't take long, but the weight was pretty much all we could lift with the crane on the wrecker. The pack was repaired, the engine compartment sandblasted and painted, and it was time to get the pack back in. Again, we were working at the full capacity of the wrecker. No joy that day, and we ended up cracking a coolant fitting. So back out goes the pack. We are now ready to re-install it, and think we have the angle of the hull right this time, so once the wrecker is back on the road (been VOR for quite a while now) we will give it another shot.

Everything about tanks is big. They can be a bugger to work on. Just look at the size of the sprocket and carrier in that photo Scott posted.......that should give guys an idea about what they are up against when it comes to heavy armour.

 

[Coyote Ugly]

http://inhabitat.com/chinese-designers-build-5-ton-transformers-megatron-tank-from-scrap-metal/

 

[Coyote Ugly]

An interesting read about this particular Sherman Tank, DND, Price/Overpriced, Ownership, Due Diligence and Buyer Beware.

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23713

 

[ss109]

Is the tank still for sale? Nice to see it stay in Canada. Maybe Klunk could add it to his collection?

 

[stencollector]

Is the tank still for sale? Nice to see it stay in Canada. Maybe Klunk could add it to his collection?

It has sold to a buyer that I know in Canada. I wish it was me, but it would have cleaned out my collection purchasing this one.

 

[antiqueguy]

It has sold to a buyer that I know in Canada. I wish it was me, but it would have cleaned out my collection purchasing this one.

good thing its staying here its gun can live in one piece