shhhh

who hasn't? subs are great to play with. and they can also be handy to have around if you live close to town and need to exercise the 3 S's
 
I've loaded subsonics in my Mosin Nagant and .357 Marlin. They are really quiet out of a long barrel like the 29" Mosin, but make sure you use cast, as a stuck jacketed is no laughing matter.

A good powder is one that is very case filling for maximum load density. Such as Reddot.
Just a few grains in the .357 will send a 158gr cast out below the sound barrier but in the 18.5" barrel of mine it's still fairly loud, not too bad without earbuds though.
Mind you 6gr of reddot behind a 150gr cast Russianx54 out of a 29" barrel is quiet as all get out.

I LOVE that Shoot shovel and shutup, that's hilarious
 
I tried it alot with my .300 Whisper using match grade cast bullets, and Gaillard barrel, bullets weighed from 168grs to 210grs. It was fun to shoot, quiet, low recoil, 7.5 grs of powder, however, accuracy was not as good as the same bullets driven 30% faster with a full case of slower burning powder. When you slow the bullet down that much Rate of Twist becomes much more critical.
 
All standard pistols with regular loads shoot their projectile slower than the speed of sound. Big boom.
Oh, I know, you'll tell me it's because of the short barrel.
Many shotgun loads shoot their projectiles slower than the speed of sound.
Long barrel, big bang.
Many of us shot exremely light loads in rifles years ago. When we got the load light enough to be very comfortable on the ears, we called them basement loads.
Then, somebody coined a new name for them and ever since they have been called sub-sonic.
I guess it sounds cool, or maybe even ###y sounding, compared to "basement load".
 
H4831 said:
All standard pistols with regular loads shoot their projectile slower than the speed of sound. Big boom.
Oh, I know, you'll tell me it's because of the short barrel.
Many shotgun loads shoot their projectiles slower than the speed of sound.
Long barrel, big bang.
Many of us shot exremely light loads in rifles years ago. When we got the load light enough to be very comfortable on the ears, we called them basement loads.
Then, somebody coined a new name for them and ever since they have been called sub-sonic.
I guess it sounds cool, or maybe even ###y sounding, compared to "basement load".
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I guess the only a real advantage would be using them with a suppressor/silencer
 
diananike said:
I've loaded subsonics in my Mosin Nagant and .357 Marlin. They are really quiet out of a long barrel like the 29" Mosin, but make sure you use cast, as a stuck jacketed is no laughing matter.
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We used to do this quite often at the club, just for fun. Everyone has/had a .303 Lee Enfield. Everyone had to use the same jacketed bullet, cases, components, Powder. The contest was: To see how far you could get the bullet to stick out of the muzzle without falling out on the ground. These were all jacketed bullets, and there were tons of stuck ones, lots of laughing went on as be drove them out and carried on with the next test load. No one ever died during this and no rifles were damaged.
Each time we did it, we changed the bullet weight, or some other factor, just to make it interesting. You would be amazed how much difference a magnum primer can make with such a small amount of powder, for instance.
 
H4831 said:
All standard pistols with regular loads shoot their projectile slower than the speed of sound. Big boom.
Oh, I know, you'll tell me it's because of the short barrel.
Many shotgun loads shoot their projectiles slower than the speed of sound.
Long barrel, big bang.
Many of us shot exremely light loads in rifles years ago. When we got the load light enough to be very comfortable on the ears, we called them basement loads.
Then, somebody coined a new name for them and ever since they have been called sub-sonic.
I guess it sounds cool, or maybe even ###y sounding, compared to "basement load".
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Gee, Bruce, I must have missed that memo so many years ago, we called them "indoor loads". Probably because we never had a basement, but had a "sun room" the length of the house. We found however, that powder smoke did tend to build up a bit and we had to stop after about 20 minutes of indoor shooting. It was still fun, though.
 
I love the subsonic loads, so much fun and can shoot all day.
I like to use trail boss, I find it very consistent.

Trail boss sub sonic loads.
In 243 win100 grain bullet 8 grains.
308 win’ 150 grain bullet I use between 10 to 14 grain.

45-70 300 grain bullet 12 to 13 grains of trail boss.
45-70 420 grains same load , 12 to 14 grains.

No need for filler with trail boos, those big cheerio’s fill up lots of case volume.
 
H4831 said:
I guess it sounds cool, or maybe even ###y sounding, compared to "basement load".
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What can we call them if we live in apartment (not at the end of the hallway but right by the elevators)?

I'm even afraid to fire my air and Co2 handguns.

Happy New Year
 
3strokes said:
What can we call them if we live in apartment (not at the end of the hallway but right by the elevators)?

I'm even afraid to fire my air and Co2 handguns.

Happy New Year
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You will notice I always said, "Used to."
The way things have gone with people and guns, I'm afraid to even shoot those super light loads in the same basement. Someone walking by on the road might hear it, and then would come another horror story. And we are on ten acres!
At one time there would be a flight of crows over our house nearly every summer evening. I used the 12 gauge and a young son stood by me with a 20, and we could shoot crows as they came over house. Now I can't even legally shoot at the crows with a pellet gun to scare them.
It's sad, but Happy New Year, just the same.
 
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