Shipping a Rifle ?

I don't see how you can lock a firearm in a cardboard box. Of course it is up to you, but if something happens like the firearm comes out of the box in transit or you have to make an insurance claim I can't see that going well if you don't follow the rules. I have always used well wrapped cardboard boxes in the past with no issues but will use a hard case with a padlock in the future. This will doubtless increase the cost to the buyer.

https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGnonmail-e.asp#1389620

unload the firearms - there cannot be any ammunition in the firearm or in the package (bullets, cartridges and other ammunition are dangerous goods)
attach a secure locking device to the firearms
lock the firearms in a sturdy, non-transparent container, and
remove the bolt or bolt carrier from any firearms (if removable).
Firearms cannot be shipped via air and cannot have any markings on the outside of the packaging. The customer is solely responsible for meeting all Canadian Firearms Centre regulations.
 
55recce said:
I don't see how you can lock a firearm in a cardboard box. Of course it is up to you, but if something happens like the firearm comes out of the box in transit or you have to make an insurance claim I can't see that going well if you don't follow the rules. I have always used well wrapped cardboard boxes in the past with no issues but will use a hard case with a padlock in the future. This will doubtless increase the cost to the buyer.

https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGnonmail-e.asp#1389620

unload the firearms - there cannot be any ammunition in the firearm or in the package (bullets, cartridges and other ammunition are dangerous goods)
attach a secure locking device to the firearms
lock the firearms in a sturdy, non-transparent container, and
remove the bolt or bolt carrier from any firearms (if removable).
Firearms cannot be shipped via air and cannot have any markings on the outside of the packaging. The customer is solely responsible for meeting all Canadian Firearms Centre regulations.
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You say you used cardboard boxes in the past so what has changed? The wording from Canada post has always been the same. There are are number of posts on here and the sticky on the forum that says sturdy non-transparent container is required. The wording has been the same since I started shipping guns in the early 2000s.

Here's a 2008 post with the same wording.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...g-Regulation?p=2238552&viewfull=1#post2238552
 
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What changed was the significant number of posts here on firearms lost or damaged in transit. Also the tightening of firearms laws that would make it inadvisable to have anything that can be tracked back to you to go wrong and raise police attention. I tend to be very conservative and always attempt to exceed minimum legal requirements.

Or perhaps I am just getting old.

The key word to me is "lock". I cannot see any way in which a cardboard box can be locked.
 
Just received 2 rifles from Cabelas.ca from Alberta

Cheap trigger lock in place, shipped in the factory cardboard box placed in a second cardboard box.

Shipped using Canadapost expedited parcel needing signature. No issues whatsoever
 
Build your own. You could possibly get by with 1x2 sides and 3/8" plywood.
I have used 1x4 and 1x5 KD spruce cut to size of the rifle.
Create a template of the article to be shipped. Breaking down a rifle will save on shipping costs.
Keep the outside dimension under one metre. 40 inches will be billed as oversized.
Spiral nails on the bottom and screwed on the top. The staff don't like slivers so the seams are duct taped.
Never lost a parcel and no damage incurred.
 
I received a rifle yesterday shipped in
the factory styro inside the factory cardboard box.
That is how I ship an rifle unless it can be
disassembled
 
lone ranger said:
I just go behind , canadian tire, costco, princes auto ect, wallmart,....they have those huge dumpsters filled with boxes "just the right size"

weed wacker boxes are perfect. works like a charm !!

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My garage would be floor to ceiling in weedwhackers.
 
I have shipped hundreds of rifles... it is no big deal, but here are a few tips;

1. Do NOT break it down... leave any firearm full length, there is far less likelihood of damage or lost parts.

2. Do not use a box with factory logos or brand names without either double boxing or paper wrapping.

3. Use bubblewrap or foam wrap around the rifle, particularly if it has nice Walnut.

4. Remove the bolt (bolt action) and scope and scope rings, foam or bubble wrap each separately in the box... or if you have an old soft case, put the rifle in that.

5. Use LOTS of padding, balled-up paper etc... so nothing can shift around during shipping, or use a foam cut-out rifle tray.

6. Label/Address it boldly and clearly.

7. Using clear packing tape, wrap the living SHYTE out of the box..... pay particular attention the the box ends and wrap around the address label... I wrap the parcel 100% with packing tape, a $1.50 roll of packing tape is better insurance than giving CP $25.
 
hoytcanon said:
I have shipped hundreds of rifles... it is no big deal, but here are a few tips;

1. Do NOT break it down... leave any firearm full length, there is far less likelihood of damage or lost parts.

2. Do not use a box with factory logos or brand names without either double boxing or paper wrapping.

3. Use bubblewrap or foam wrap around the rifle, particularly if it has nice Walnut.

4. Remove the bolt (bolt action) and scope and scope rings, foam or bubble wrap each separately in the box... or if you have an old soft case, put the rifle in that.

5. Use LOTS of padding, balled-up paper etc... so nothing can shift around during shipping, or use a foam cut-out rifle tray.

6. Label/Address it boldly and clearly.

7. Using clear packing tape, wrap the living SHYTE out of the box..... pay particular attention the the box ends and wrap around the address label... I wrap the parcel 100% with packing tape, a $1.50 roll of packing tape is better insurance than giving CP $25.
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I use ziplock bags for the bolt and any accessories (scope mounts, magazines) and pack them into one of the ends. When I let the buyer know I've shipped the rifle, I'll include a list of the accessories and which end they are in. One of my worries is someone accidentally tossing something out with the packing paper. I think next time, I'll take a before picture as well for verification purposes.
 
chanman said:
I use ziplock bags for the bolt and any accessories (scope mounts, magazines) and pack them into one of the ends. When I let the buyer know I've shipped the rifle, I'll include a list of the accessories and which end they are in. One of my worries is someone accidentally tossing something out with the packing paper. I think next time, I'll take a before picture as well for verification purposes.
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Zip Loc bags do not have any padding, if the bolt breaks loose during shipping it can ding the hell out of a walnut stock (ask me how I know). I often use Zip Loc's but I bubblewrap first. One other thing, once the PO puts on the postage stickers, I take pictures of the parcel and tracking receipt and forward them to the buyer, and save them for myself until the transaction has been concluded and feedback left by both parties.

Also, per grauhanen's post above... never throw away factory boxes of rifles or Scopes, and when shipping NEVER apply tape directly on a factory box, package the box and then paper wrap or double box and tape on the outside of that... original factory boxes add value to the item, and collectors like to have MINT condition original factory packaging and paperwork.
 
Here is a shipping story... I sold a beautiful mint rifle to a guy, a short while later he relisted it in the EE... I had regretted selling it (as I often do), so I bought it back along with 50 brass I had sold with it. I received the rifle with 3 inches of barrel poking out the end of the box and the bolt knob poking through the side, when I opened it up, I discovered the rifle in the box with NO wrapping or padding, the brass had been dropped in a Zip Loc and thrown in with the bare rifle, but the Zip Loc bag had broken open and the 50 brass had been rolling and banging and scratching for the entire ride, the rifle was a mess.
 
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