Shipping Ammo?
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mebiuspower
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Add Canpar to the list.
Make sure you follow Transport Canada's regs to the letter when it comes to marking and packaging of dangerous goods. "Consumer commodity" no longer exists per se, hasn't for years in fact, but there <is> such a thing as "limited quantity" nowadays (new term for what was once "consumer commodity", with different standards). If you're unsure about how to label and package it, check Transport Canada's website, on consult an individual who has received proper training and certification for dangerous goods handling (I'm not certified, so can't really help you there.).
And contrary to Bear.23's opinion, I STRONGLY advise you to be up front with the carrier as to what the contents of your package is, there's an awful lot of work being done behind the scenes based on what the contents of a specific package is, the sort of work that the general public (read customers) doesn't need to know about (and indeed SHOULD NOT know about, for obvious reasons).
And contrary to Bear.23's opinion, I STRONGLY advise you to be up front with the carrier as to what the contents of your package is, there's an awful lot of work being done behind the scenes based on what the contents of a specific package is, the sort of work that the general public (read customers) doesn't need to know about (and indeed SHOULD NOT know about, for obvious reasons).
Do you teel them its a contract or just paper goods?
Do you tell them it's a piston or a machine part?
do you tell them is's a digital camera or elcetronics?
Telling them it's ammo is asking for trouble and to the untrained will get you a denial of service... Telling them it's a consumer commodity approved under the TDG act is not lying and will not cuase you problems...
And Ammo is not a Dangerous Good! Labelling it as such will cause you problems..
Check Section 1.17 of the TDG act.
Canpar has this on their site..
* Alcohol Products
* Explosives or dangerous goods of any kind (except for consumer commodities as defined by the Dangerous Goods Act)
* Firearms
* Bullion, currency, precious gems and minerals, or negotiable papers
* Goods requiring protection from heat or cold
* Narcotics or controlled drugs requiring custodial service
* Packages exceeding CANPAR's published size and weight limitations
* Furs, jewellery and watches exceeding a value of $200 per package
* Paintings and other art objects
* Household goods and/or personal effects
* Time sensitive documents (i.e. bids, contracts, proposals, tenders)
* Plants or live creatures
Do you tell them it's a piston or a machine part?
do you tell them is's a digital camera or elcetronics?
Telling them it's ammo is asking for trouble and to the untrained will get you a denial of service... Telling them it's a consumer commodity approved under the TDG act is not lying and will not cuase you problems...
And Ammo is not a Dangerous Good! Labelling it as such will cause you problems..
Check Section 1.17 of the TDG act.
Canpar has this on their site..
* Alcohol Products
* Explosives or dangerous goods of any kind (except for consumer commodities as defined by the Dangerous Goods Act)
* Firearms
* Bullion, currency, precious gems and minerals, or negotiable papers
* Goods requiring protection from heat or cold
* Narcotics or controlled drugs requiring custodial service
* Packages exceeding CANPAR's published size and weight limitations
* Furs, jewellery and watches exceeding a value of $200 per package
* Paintings and other art objects
* Household goods and/or personal effects
* Time sensitive documents (i.e. bids, contracts, proposals, tenders)
* Plants or live creatures
Canpar makes you call it in as a dengerous good. They arrange a dangerous goods certified driver to come pickup your ammo.
It's ONLY marked as "SAA Consumer Commodity".
If the box says ammo or ammunition, they'll make you buy brown paper to wrap it in.
-Jamie M.
It's ONLY marked as "SAA Consumer Commodity".
If the box says ammo or ammunition, they'll make you buy brown paper to wrap it in.
-Jamie M.
sxyglock17 said:
Precisely, Ammunition (actually all "explosives") are dangerous goods. When you call for your pickup, tell the guy on the phone (me) wtf you have in this box and the agent (me) will make the arrangements. Follow the instructions to the letter and you won't have any issues. IF the agent gives you a hard time re-firearms etc... (not everyone is familiar with firearms in Canada, in fact, most people aren't) politely ask to double check, and if that gets you nowhere ask for the supervisor (that ain't me, i'm just a plain ol' agent
), they'll straighten things out. Funny thing is, <in theory> ammo cannot be carried as "limited quantity" which is what was known in the old regulations as "consumer commodities" at ANY times. :
1.17 Limited Quantities
Subsection (1) establishes the concept of a limited quantity of dangerous goods. Note that it is established in terms of a consignment, that is, a consignment of dangerous goods is a limited quantity if the conditions in this section are met.
Subsection (2) provides an exemption for a limited quantity.
Subsection (3) provides an exemption for an accumulation of more than one limited quantity. However, there are conditions. For example, the means of containment containing the dangerous goods must be marked. Also, when an accumulation of dangerous goods exceeds 500 kg gross mass and is offered for transport by one consignor to one destination, the dangerous goods must be accompanied by a document.
(1) A consignment of dangerous goods, other than explosives, is a limited quantity if
(a) the consignment is contained in a means of containment that has a gross mass less than or equal to 30 kg and is designed, constructed, filled, closed, secured and maintained so that under normal conditions of transport, including handling, there will be no accidental release of the dangerous goods that could endanger public safety; and
etc ...
