Shipping Canada post is hurting your bussiness

All the guys saying publicly “They left a gun on my doorstep” are only going to get our most accessible and affordable means of shipping firearms taken away, or rendered a far more expensive secure service. And that’s really gonna suck if you’re remote.

When the package clearly says "Card for Pick up" and they still put it in a truck and leave at outside your door when you're gone for a week out at sea - that's not really our fault is it?

But I get your point.
 
Anybody used netparcel yet? How does it work?

Love Netparcel. Never had an issue with them. I always use Canpar as that is always the best rate provided to me from Netparcel. 9/10 it’s cheaper then shipping Canada post. 10/10 times it’s faster. Free pick up from my house. Also I have never had Netparcel adjust my shipping costs after shipping a product which Secureship would do to me here and there.

If only I could ship restricteds with someone other then CP! I’d honestly never use CP ever again.
 
You guys in the south at least have other options. That being said, CP has been great here. It’s our only real option. ALL of the courier services bone us super hard as soon as you get north of Grande Prairie. Boned HARD! I can’t relate all of the horror stories, but we’re talking $105 for a bubble envelope from Saskatchewan that CP delivered for less then five. Over three hundred for a small parcel from Ottawa that CP would do for less then forty. I understand that it’s fashionable to blame the post office, and of course there’s horror stories. But there’s MILLIONS of good stories.
 
There's a new Modus Operandi for CP when Proof of Age and Signature Required are checked - they do not attempt to deliver to the door at all,
1. they issue a notice card (card left is showing in the system) without any delivery attempts at all,
2. delver the card the same or next day or even later as a BAU letter mail.
3. the package is directed to the postal office the same or next or later day,
4. you have to wait until it shows ready for pick-up in the system,
5. and then you go there to get it

I’ve had the exact same experience and I did ask the CP mail man the next day about this “practice “ . He explained to me that it was something about avoiding the contamination of the stylus that they use to obtain signatures , to which I countered that I have to do the same at the post office when I pick up the package . But he said they (post office)have the means to sanitize after each use . I gave up trying to reason out but pointed out that UPS and FedEx had no such issue . I guess CP is “regulated “ differently .
 
I've had better luck using flex delivery and picking up my packages from the post office in the shopper's drug mart closest to my work, once they scan the package it sends you the delivery notice right to your phone. Although last week I had one of my packages "returned to sender " for no apparent reason.
 
I didn’t know there was this animosity towards Canada Post. They have always done a great job for me.

I am not sure why this is either, CP has set hours to pickup (not dropped off at 4 am) I have had much more luck with CP in semi remote areas as opposed to UPS. I receive parcels everyday and at least the post office is in my town as opposed to 50 km away. in the last while parcel problems with CP has been 3 out of 53, with UPS 2 out of 5. In my experience the resolution time with CP has been much quicker. I also realize that the service in the small rural post offices can vary town to town.
 
Not going to read the 86 posts beyond the first, but here's my opinion: they all have faults.

I have had Canada Post "lose" a handgun (I sold to a NB CGN member) in the Montreal distribution center for three weeks: it took the RCMP Firearms Center to get it moving and prevent a sh!t show. Turned out they tried repeatedly to send it across to the USA for unknown reasons, maybe an anti-gun employee wanted me to get smuggling charges?

I have had UPS try to charge me $115CAD for a gift, an engraved watch, worth $75USD because of $100CAD in brokerage fees, exchange fees and sh!t. I self brokered for $14.99CAD p!ssing off UPS royally.

I had a UPS driver refuse "for personal beliefs protected by the Charter" to drop a Pole Cat walking stick I ordered from a CGN sponsor because they are a "known gun seller" at it was a "gun length" box. Dude nearly called the police when I opened the box in front of him to inspect it.

I have had CanPar try to deliver ammo three times in one morning and then try to send it back to the shipper (cause 3 attempts exceeded), site sponsor SFRC, and only Chemist phoning them direct prevented it from going back. (You probably don't remember Chemist, but thanks man.)

I have had Canada Post put boot prints on a box, I think as I am just guessing, because someone was anti-gun and thought it a gun when, for f'n once, it was actually a #1 wood golfing driver as a gift for a friend... and then when I rufused to sign for it, inspected it and found it banana shaped, Canada Post refused the insurance claim on it paid by the shipper, a major golfing chain store.

I had UPS or Purolator, I forget as it was years ago, safe drop an a Friday evening on my back BBQ a very expensive item with huge stickers saying "NO SAFE DROP" and "SIGNATURE ONLY" on it: the tracking said it was still elsewhere and not to be delivered until Tuesday so I left for the weekend.

I have had CanPar leave a busted open box of ammo on my front porch with no tracking, no knock, no card, nothing.

AND... I recently had a Purolator subcontractor "safe drop" at the wrong location a "signature only" box worth $4,000 that is missing and so far Purolator has told the shipper to kindly "F-Off" in less profane words: no responsibility, no insurance, nothing. My client is p!ssed beyond words their stuff is gone and the job is now behind.

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So, depending on where you are, what driver you get, who touches the package in its travel... you might get a problem. Likely not, but the law of probabilities says you will.
 
I have shipped almost certainly over 500 guns over the years with CP, up to doubles worth many tens of thousands uninsured. And worst I’ve suffered was a box getting a hole in it a few times. One was in a highway wreck, and arrived with an explanation as such, but again the gun was ok. I’ve never encountered these political incidents, notta once.
 
I have shipped almost certainly over 500 guns over the years with CP, up to doubles worth many tens of thousands uninsured. And worst I’ve suffered was a box getting a hole in it a few times. One was in a highway wreck, and arrived with an explanation as such, but again the gun was ok. I’ve never encountered these political incidents, notta once.

+1

If I have learned one thing from people, is that they love to embelish stories.

Thousands of packages, only one got lost, but found 2 days after.

Like others have said, it's the best option for those of us that live in the sticks.
 
100%, they’re far better than the others. And it ain’t easy for any of the shipping companies during Covid.

You can tell by my trader rating how many rifles I’ve shipped by CP, and I’ve never had a single one lost in just shy of 20 years since I started swapping and trading. That’s a pretty good track record.
I am always amazed that people think what should be taken as a minimum job expectation is good service. If a package is properly labelled there is ZERO reason why it should not be delivered on time to the proper location 100% of the time unless the postal worker is incompetent.

I once received an envelope with government cheque in it (I could tell by what was visible in the address window. The only thing about the address that applied to me was the house number and the city. Different name, different street, different postal code. Only gross incompetence on a monumental scale would allow that to happen but it is commonplace, especially with CP. The bottom line is that unions protect incompetent workers at grossly inflated salaries not commensurate with the substandard quality of work that many of them do.
 
My new henry rifle came 2 weeks ago, that monday, online it said, attempted delivery, card left. You guessed it, no card left, went through my security camera footage, we live on a dead end road, no delivery guy came to door and no delivery truck came down road. Why straight up lie to me, why not just put online, pickup at post office.

Same thing happened to me today with a pkg that required a signature .The CP tracking site said card left when nobody came for alternate pickup at PO. An hour later I caught the mail lady with the card and she explained they don't do front step signing so it must be picked up the next day at the PO.Strange it was on the tracking before the card was delivered?
 
I receive lots of packages from CP, UPS, Canpar and Purolater. I've never seen CP this screwed up, which they say is temporary as they are still dealing with Xmas volume on top of allthe online shopping.

There are plenty of small delays which are understandable and are not a major problem. But some are gross errors. Had 2 parcels take over a month from NS to BC. Currently have a parcel shipped from northern BC to me in southern BC via Mississauga. Like WTF?

CP has usually been pretty good and with a decent tracking system. Not so these days.

What I hate the most is getting an email notification that the parcel is in. So warm up a vehicle, head in, only to discover that the parcel card won’t be processed til late afternoon or tomorrow. Frick

and imagine sometimes i got parcels with no cards and the parcels did not reach yet our place ...
 
Ok so had an issue with UPS today. I had ordered a laptop for my son and it had had it marked as signature required as we had quite a few cases of packages being stolen in the neighbourhood. They sent an update in the morning that the package was out for delivery and expect it by days end. In the afternoon I checked and it showed the package headed to Concord Ontario! Yes I live in Ontario but nowhere near Concord. Just checked and it now says , we tried to deliver the package to you today , but unable to do so ,(mind you I work from home) hence it has been placed at a pick up location nearest to you for your collection.WTF....rest assured I'm intent on having a very interesting conversation with UPS in the morning. Seems like this is becoming systemic with mail carriers nowadays.
 
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