Shipping Firing Pins from the US.

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Hey guys,

I have a conundrum.. I am just doing some work on my Savage Model 24 and I ordered some firing pins from Jack First Inc. (in California I think) and had them sent to a mailbox in Buffalo that I have with Cross Border Pickups. Cross Border Pickups is a third party that will bring packages across the border in bulk and then ship from their warehouse in Oakville, ON. But here is the problem, they just released a new policy where they wont do anything with gun components, so it is still sat in Buffalo, NY waiting for my instruction.

So my question is, I have a friend in Philadelphia that I could have it sent to, and if he just forwards it over to me in Toronto is that legal? I don't want him to get in any trouble. The part is obviously legal in both countries just wondering about sending it directly across the border.

Cheers!
 
Son of a Woodcutter said:
Hey guys,

I have a conundrum.. I am just doing some work on my Savage Model 24 and I ordered some firing pins from Jack First Inc. (in California I think) and had them sent to a mailbox in Buffalo that I have with Cross Border Pickups. Cross Border Pickups is a third party that will bring packages across the border in bulk and then ship from their warehouse in Oakville, ON. But here is the problem, they just released a new policy where they wont do anything with gun components, so it is still sat in Buffalo, NY waiting for my instruction.

So my question is, I have a friend in Philadelphia that I could have it sent to, and if he just forwards it over to me in Toronto is that legal? I don't want him to get in any trouble. The part is obviously legal in both countries just wondering about sending it directly across the border.

Cheers!
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No, You will need export permits as most Gun Parts are controlled by ITAR/USML. Firing Pins would be controlled....
 
In past two months I have received two firing pins from Numrich Gun Parts in USA. Customs forms, etc. on outside of package, but they are able to mail them to me in Canada, via our friends in Canada Customs, of course. Canada doesn't have issue with them coming in, it is USA that is "huffy" about letting stuff like that leave their country.
 
Son of a Woodcutter said:
Hey guys,

I have a conundrum.. I am just doing some work on my Savage Model 24 and I ordered some firing pins from Jack First Inc. (in California I think) and had them sent to a mailbox in Buffalo that I have with Cross Border Pickups. Cross Border Pickups is a third party that will bring packages across the border in bulk and then ship from their warehouse in Oakville, ON. But here is the problem, they just released a new policy where they wont do anything with gun components, so it is still sat in Buffalo, NY waiting for my instruction.

So my question is, I have a friend in Philadelphia that I could have it sent to, and if he just forwards it over to me in Toronto is that legal? I don't want him to get in any trouble. The part is obviously legal in both countries just wondering about sending it directly across the border.

Cheers!
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How good a friend is the Philadelphian? You would be asking him to commit a US Federal crime.
 
Firing pins are not a ITAR restricted item and unless they cost more than $500 then a export licence is not needed to ship to Canada. You might be cheaper and easier just to order it from Numrich.
 
WobblyHead said:
Firing pins are not a ITAR restricted item and unless they cost more than $500 then a export licence is not needed to ship to Canada. You might be cheaper and easier just to order it from Numrich.
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This is false information, as mentioned the Canadian border will not care about this particular product especially if you have a PAL, but it is illegal to posses and leave with most Firearm parts in the USA without the proper export paperwork. My beef has always been with optics
 
I think you need to check with the seller. Some companies will send items to Canada and have export permits. You have to be careful though. Some American companies aren't aware of the paperwork. I deal with a company that sells bullet molds. They used to send a sample cast bullet with each mold. They got in trouble with BATF for exporting bullets without a permit!

Chris.
 
A couple of months ago I was in need of a firing pin for my '92. Searched all over online Canada and US outlets. Brownell wouldn't ship to Canada (I know they do for some things but firing pins are not one of them). I went with Numrich. The total cost - including shipping, taxes, and whatever else they charge - came in less than I could get it anywhere in Canada and the estimated delivery time was a week quicker. It came in 12 days quicker than the estimate from an outlet in Edmonton and $43 cheaper.
 
lacroian said:
This is false information, as mentioned the Canadian border will not care about this particular product especially if you have a PAL, but it is illegal to posses and leave with most Firearm parts in the USA without the proper export paperwork. My beef has always been with optics
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not false information i ordered and got marlin rifle firing pins from brownells but they would not ship me a triggerhappy sear just order it and let them decide if they want to ship it
 
porpoise said:
not false information i ordered and got marlin rifle firing pins from brownells but they would not ship me a triggerhappy sear just order it and let them decide if they want to ship it
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Okay, As op asked....Would it be okay if he or his friend exports/brings it in to Canada from a post box...You are talking about something totally different, you are referring to the ITAR $500USD exemption on some parts ( which some firing pins may fall under) which can only be used and claimed by a DDTC Registered Exporter (not just any business, nor a foreign individual traveling in the US).
 
I have dealt with American Export Laws a lot. This a taken from another source. Please read the last part....as some of mentioned receiving parts from businesses in the USA. The 500USD Exemption can not be used by Canadians crossing over the border and bringing firearms parts across. As seen below this Exemption is very limited. I just dont want anyone to get into trouble!

"United States law (specifically the “ITAR” – International Traffic in Arms Regulations”) allows for the export without an export license of certain firearm-related parts and components. This guide provides some details about the so-called “small parts exemption.” Here are the basics:

Does not apply to any parts/components related to Shotguns (these are regulated by the U.S. Department of Commerce rather than the U.S. Department of State, and there is not equivalent exemption for shotgun parts in the Export Administration Regulations).

Does not apply to ammunition-related parts and components, such as brass, bullets or primers. These are classified as “Category III” on the U.S. Munitions List, while the exemption only refers to “Category I(a) firearms.”

Does not apply to barrels, cylinders, frames (receivers), or complete bolts.

Does not apply to any parts at all related to fully automatic firearms, even if you’re planning to use the part on a semi-auto variant.

Does not apply to any parts made in embargoed countries such as China, Iraq, some Russian companies, etc. (See list at this link).

Does not apply to Scopes, which are regulated for export separately by the U.S. Department of Commerce, and there is no equivalent exemption.

Exemption can only be used and claimed by a DDTC Registered Exporter (not just any business, nor a foreign individual traveling in the US).
As the Registered Exporter, we must still file documentation online (using the Automated Export System, or AES) to notify the government that we’re using this exemption, including the item description, tariff code, value, weight, date of export and Port of Exit.
We cannot and will not split orders into smaller shipments to meet the $100/500 threshold.
 
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