Shipping non-active grenades out of country

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I have had a request to buy some of my duplicate ordnance from overseas.

6 pdr AP and Practice rounds - both solid shot.
No.68 Mk III HEAT Grenade - detonator and explosives removed but not rendered permanently inactive.

Does anyone have any experience in how to go about shipping this stuff?
Is it legal to ship ? Where do I confirm this?
Should I even bother and keep waiting on a Canadian Buyer?



Thanks for any information.


Cheers!
 
dinsdale said:
I have had a request to buy some of my duplicate ordnance from overseas.

6 pdr AP and Practice rounds - both solid shot.
No.68 Mk III HEAT Grenade - detonator and explosives removed but not rendered permanently inactive.

Does anyone have any experience in how to go about shipping this stuff?
Is it legal to ship ? Where do I confirm this?
Should I even bother and keep waiting on a Canadian Buyer?



Thanks for any information.


Cheers!
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A friend of mine bought a repop 18th century grenade (solid steel ball) from overseas.

Can Customs turned it over to DND who fired a .50bmg AP through it, declared it harmless & sent it on it's way with a stern letter. This was about 12 years ago, (mucho pre 9/11).

What you have are illegal to possess in many countries. I wouldn't take the risk of selling it across the border nor the liability.


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Buddy just be glad you have them and stay quiet. If you start shipping that kind of stuff around you will have a nice knock on your door from RCMP and / or ERD. Those things are prohibited!
 
canucklehead said:
Not really. LIVE grenades are obviously prohibited, but deact ones are not. It's just a hunk of steel! Other countries may have different laws, but they are not illegal here.
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Illegal to mail. Can Post would evacuate the entire post office every time a paperweight shows up on their X ray screen. Those union posties will go to great length to slack off at work anyway they can.
 
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they are only legal when the military has certified them as deactivated. There are no other exceptions.
 
Funny story-Returning from belgium with 2 deac grenades and nosepiece from an artillery shell, I told the check in lady that i had some EMPTY grenades in my bags. A clerk came, took them away for 2 minutes and returned with just the grenades. Dropped em back in my check in bag with an AK and mauser bayonet, and took off. No worries clearing Canadian customs either. This was about Sept 7, 2001!!! 4 days later i would have been f@(*#D!
 
Generally a bad friggin' idea, yes, we WILL evacuate the depot and call EOD if we stumble on explosive ordnance, expecially if it's not properly labeled as such (and even if it is, we'll call EOD anyway, no offense intended, but our lives are more important than your paperwight.). First call the export control division of the department of foreign affairs in Ottawa and MAKE SURE that the stuff does not require an export permit, then call the consulate of whatever country you want ot ship this into and inquire, and last, call the courier you intend to use and ask, IF we decide we want to take the chance to carry it (most likely not), we'll tell you how we want it done. Chances are we'll want to see them to make sure they really are harmless before you send them out.
 
as for shipping as long as its legaly to own and export from canada and you lable the customs form truthfully your good to go

you CANNOT be expected to know the laws of every country the buyer would be the one in deep trouble if its banned
 
There was an article recently about Canada Post's unhappiness with inert ordnance being mailed. When x-ray screening machines detect something like this, operations are likely going to grind to a halt until it is determined whether they they are dealing with an explosive device or a paperweight. CP wanted mailing of inert ordnance prohibited for that reason.
I don't collect these items, but like Stevo, I would be very interested in seeing any regulation that requires approval of inert ordnance by the CF. I've never heard of such a thing.
 
Uwish said:
they are only legal when the military has certified them as deactivated. There are no other exceptions.
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While this may be true in the UK, it ain't true here.

Though the "authorities" do take a great deal of interest when they run into items that they don't understand.

Many years ago a friend of mine was helping a friends wife clean up the estate, he got a dozen Mk.36s out of the deal.

On the trip home he decided he needed to try one out... dropping it off a bridge resulted in a rather loud popping sound...
 
Lee Enfield said:
While this may be true in the UK, it ain't true here.

Though the "authorities" do take a great deal of interest when they run into items that they don't understand.

Many years ago a friend of mine was helping a friends wife clean up the estate, he got a dozen Mk.36s out of the deal.

On the trip home he decided he needed to try one out... dropping it off a bridge resulted in a rather loud popping sound...
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Did he see red and blue flashing lights in his rear view mirror?
 
And don't forget about a certain incident many years ago when a group of Army cadets receiving a course on grenades during summer camp had a live one accidentaly mixed in with the dummys...
 
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