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Levi Garrett

Levi Garrett

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With all the talk on guns, ammo, and such, I figured it might be a good thing to look at animals , debate images, and just give folks some insight into making a clean kill shot. Not just for new hunters. I always go over stuff like this in my mind, when out in the field , wondering how the animal will look when it shows. Anyway hope you like, and add to this collection, hope they are of some use.:)

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I agree with most of those but what's wrong with the whitetail buck beside the Texas heart shot? I know the shoulder is kinda in the way but unless you're bow hunting or using a caliber you shouldn't be using in the first place, I would shoot!
 
I knew that would get a rise :cool: , yes you could certainly kill that animal , with bow or gun. Would I , well I would watch it like a hawk :D and hope for a broadside, as damage to the front end would cause you to loose some meat. Its a tough call, as they don't give folks much of a chance at times.:(
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Love the thread Levi. There is never an ideal shot, only hunter confidence in ones equipment, and conditions at hand.

Both the Texas heart and the one beside it depend on range and familiarity with the rifle. I have not taken a direct tail on shot, but I have seen people cleanly drop em with a back of the head shot. The one beside it depends on range and conditions. Head shot only there methinks.

The first no shoot I wouldn't touch for a bunch of reasons. Even a perfect headshot could be a waste.

Even the little one at the end is not ideal.
 
bcsteve said:
I agree with most of those but what's wrong with the whitetail buck beside the Texas heart shot? I know the shoulder is kinda in the way but unless you're bow hunting or using a caliber you shouldn't be using in the first place, I would shoot!
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I agree with bcsteve on this one.

Quartering towards or quartering away? I don't see much difference. I also like to look at the target more three dimentional. Sort of like a volley ball inside instead of a circle on the surface! I also like a point of aim slightly lower than the ones on these animals. Also don't like head shots!
 
I'd bust all except the pair of Elk too easy to hit the other. The group of whities I may think twice due to background though that aint a tough shot but?????---if it were my machine no problem.
 
I agree with most,would not shoot elk on hill top,don't know whos behind it.As for the deer with the tractor,I have had farmers give me permission to hunt their land,this is uncrowded no other hunters private land.Wouldn't want to loose that right and be considered a bad hunter.
 
Wouldn't shoot the THS, wouldn't shoot the two elk or the three deer infront of the tractor, wouldn't shoot the kids hand, wouldn't shoot the littel buck at the end unless it was lat day at 15 minutes left.

I do have to admit would have a really hard time NOT shooting that big elk silouetted against the hilltop, although I know it's wrong.

Would shoot the bear.
I agree with the point made about a less than perfect angle on a deer, they aren't very big or tough, a barnes tsx launched at 3200 fps is exiting every one of those deer, including the THS.
 
I guess a lot depends on where you hunt. The remote area where I hunt means that secondary targets, while they are a concern on occassion, are for the most part out of the equation. The deer walking, only needs to take a step or two. The texas heart shot, is only a shot, if the deer is previously wounded IMO.
 
I first buck looks like he's ready to bolt, I'd have my gun on him & the second he swung his head to leave it'd be over. The THS is not neccassary either, he's not nervous give hime a minute he'll turn or look around likely! Don't see anything wrong with the one beside THS, you could wait but you'll do no more damage than the one below where you'll take out his off side shoulder.
The only questionable one for me would be the Elk, I know you shouldn't but, if in a remote area, & my rifle rest felt good so there's no possibily of a bad shot & the range was 150yds or less to again to make sure my shot was perfect, I'd don't think my .280 with Core Locks would go that far out the other side to be a danger.
OK flame away!!
 
I see no reason for a flame at all, thinking and not reacting is the key to making a clean kill, and being safe about it.
I look at it, safety first, muscles second (muscles are food) get the round to the furnace with as little contact with food as poss.:D If the heart gets punched, not a great loss.
 
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each situation is different. it all comes down to hunter skill, range, animal placement. for myself each of those shots are possible(other than the one with the swather in the background) if the range was appropriate and a steady rest was available.

if your not chasing the animal with your truck you can just wait it out and the animal will usually offer a good shot.

hunter ethics, unfortunatly not all people have ethics.
 
Hi Levi :wave: Good reading .... thankyou!

Here is a little something I found...


WHERE DO I SHOOT A BEAR?
Rifle shooters should use heavy bullets and they should aim for the shoulder-blade (scapula). Avoid heart-lung shots, they are for deer hunting. Scapula shots immobilize the bruin so you do not have to go looking for your trophy. What would you rather do - walk up to the body of your bear at the bait site or track a blood-trail into the bush? Scapulas are slightly higher and more forward than most hunters expect.

Archers shoot for double-lung shots when the bear presents the opportunity. Arrows do not break scapulas so the archer must hit the respiratory or circulatory systems for a lethal shot
 
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