*** Shoot! *** Don't Shoot !!!

mommabear said:
Hi Levi :wave: Good reading .... thankyou!

Here is a little something I found...


WHERE DO I SHOOT A BEAR?
Rifle shooters should use heavy bullets and they should aim for the shoulder-blade (scapula). Avoid heart-lung shots, they are for deer hunting. Scapula shots immobilize the bruin so you do not have to go looking for your trophy. What would you rather do - walk up to the body of your bear at the bait site or track a blood-trail into the bush? Scapulas are slightly higher and more forward than most hunters expect.

Archers shoot for double-lung shots when the bear presents the opportunity. Arrows do not break scapulas so the archer must hit the respiratory or circulatory systems for a lethal shot
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Thats excellent mommabear , what they are talking about is valid , if you look at the pdf on bears , earlier post. The vitals are some what smaller on a bear , and a tough shot with any form of fire power.
The bow , its a must to sneak that arrow behind the Scapula , and quite high compaired to a deer, as its all tucked up pretty high. Aloth of bears get liver shot by archers, which is very deadly , and the bear don't go far. A must , to get a pass through cause of the long hair traps the blood.
A rifle will not do much damage to meat up there, but I think the comments were also focused on the bigger brown boys. A hit with a rifle in the same place you would want an arrow to pass will get the job done.
I do agree a hit to anchor the beast is best in this case , looking at the places you find blacks, and they always find the worst places to go, where its even hard to shoulder a rifle if required. :)
I setup a buddy of mine on a bear trail (tree stand with bow) told him to wait for the bear to stop, I put some canned fish juice on some skunk cabbage leaves on the trail, where he could get a perfect shot. Well he shot it walking, and took out the liver. I had to track it with a pump shotgun . Found it 90 yds away , looked like a car, it weighed in at 550 lbs, near 8 feet long.
 
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A little patience would fix all those scenarios. Except that last little Yummy whitetail, he'd get dropped at that range quick and clean.
 
grouseman said:
I'd tee-off on everysingle deerexcept the THS...nor would I tee-off on the two elk and obviosly none of the deer in line with the tractor but the ones to the side? Ka friggen BOOOMMMMM
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Same here. The Texas Heart Shot one doesnt look to spooky, so keep your scope on him as you might get a slim angle quatering away shot before he gets away.
 
Levi Garrett said:
Meat :D , and back of the head would mess up the rack (I know flame on about trophy hunters):evil:
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Actually this is a meat buck. He's got his ears back and if he let em go they would be outside the spread. I am still against a head shot cause you could blow out his tongue and have a very live buck to follow!
 
Levi Garrett said:
My standards are low :( ;)
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Mine too! I would probably not turn this boy down, and I would wait for a better angle or wait for a bigger buck or even better a spike or fork:) Though I don't like to chance a wounding head shot, I don't like my final memory of such a fine animal to be grey matter and eye balls hanging down the nose.
 
mommabear said:
Hi Levi :wave: Good reading .... thankyou!

Here is a little something I found...


WHERE DO I SHOOT A BEAR?
Rifle shooters should use heavy bullets and they should aim for the shoulder-blade (scapula). Avoid heart-lung shots, they are for deer hunting. Scapula shots immobilize the bruin so you do not have to go looking for your trophy. What would you rather do - walk up to the body of your bear at the bait site or track a blood-trail into the bush? Scapulas are slightly higher and more forward than most hunters expect.

Archers shoot for double-lung shots when the bear presents the opportunity. Arrows do not break scapulas so the archer must hit the respiratory or circulatory systems for a lethal shot
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I think you are right! My choice would be a BIG GUN and blow out both shoulders and put him down on the spot, even though it might mean a follow up shot to put him out of his misery. Better than letting him get out of sight and having to follow him into hell for the finisher.
 
Bullseye!!

carbonrod said:
Love the thread Levi. There is never an ideal shot, only hunter confidence in ones equipment, and conditions at hand.

Both the Texas heart and the one beside it depend on range and familiarity with the rifle. I have not taken a direct tail on shot, but I have seen people cleanly drop em with a back of the head shot. The one beside it depends on range and conditions. Head shot only there methinks.

The first no shoot I wouldn't touch for a bunch of reasons. Even a perfect headshot could be a waste.

Even the little one at the end is not ideal.
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When I was a much younger, eager moose hunter, I was pussy footing through a forest of large trees, with some undergrowth when a nice young bull jumped up about forty yards in front of me. I threw the peep sighted 30-06 to my shoulder, intending to get the back of his head. No head was visible. With just yards to go before he was out of sight---BOOM! He didn't even get twenty feet until he was down and a head shot soon followed. Actually, there wasn't even that much meat loss.
 
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Levi Garrett said:
Hows about , if your off a tad , and blow the jaw off the animal, and it heads off in the bush to starve.
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I was in on a bull shoot years ago that the same thing happen to him. I was shooting furnace and my buddy was shooting head and he shot the hinge right off the bulls mouth.

We got the bull, but the hanging mouth left a memory.

As long as you have chance at a decent follow up shot, head shots are (albeit a low percentage) perfectly fine.
 
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