Shoot farms in Alberta

You nailed it. All the meat from one such elk farm who my family has been friends for generations has the clients pay for cutting and wrapping of the meat, and it is donated to homeless shelters in the cities, they get their trophy and the less fortunate get to eat, whats so horrible about that? Do you want to know where that steak came from in your freezer? It was farmed too, and someone killed it and butchered it.

dead meat said:
While my opinion on hunt farms doesn`t matter, i would like to know how many of the guys that are so against it make a living from a farm of any kind. Its real easy to criticize someones lively hood as long as you live an easy life in the city. It isn`t all hunting and fishing everyday for guys making a living on the land.
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Yes, some consider Val Geist a highly respected researcher............and some don't. I've read a few of his books and don't necessarily agree with everything he says. After all, his opinion is just that, an opinion.
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You and I have Opinions.
I will take a peer reviewed journal over an Opinion to help establish a position any day...
 
dead meat said:
While my opinion on hunt farms doesn`t matter, i would like to know how many of the guys that are so against it make a living from a farm of any kind. Its real easy to criticize someones lively hood as long as you live an easy life in the city. It isn`t all hunting and fishing everyday for guys making a living on the land.
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I grew up on a farm, and although I would have liked to farm it wasn't economically viable (late 80's). This meant I had to go to school and learn another way to make a living. I sure as heck wasn't expecting the government to change the rules so I could farm.

I appreciate what these guys go through more than anyone and well remember the days of irrigation, haying, cattle and grain production. You have to love that stuff to run 16 to 20 hour days in peak season.
 
I don't see everyones problem with this, what is the difference if I walk into the corral and shoot an animal in the head at 15 yards or someone shoots the animal at 200 yards. If someone was willing to pay me extra to shoot a animal out in the pasture your damn right I would take it. If they want to call themselves the best hunter in the world then that's up to them.

As long as the meat is being eaten, I don't see a problem!
 
I don't know about Manitoba, but in Alberta, you can draw a circle around the elk farms and you'll notice the same circle shows cwd infestation locations. I don't need to be a scientist to make the link.

You guys in Sask and Man are welcome to shoot farms. Here in Alberta, Albertans are against them. As soon as we can get rid of Stelmach and his crooked cronies you'll not hear of this, or ramp again.
 
Suka said:
I don't know about Manitoba, but in Alberta, you can draw a circle around the elk farms and you'll notice the same circle shows cwd infestation locations. I don't need to be a scientist to make the link.

You guys in Sask and Man are welcome to shoot farms. Here in Alberta, Albertans are against them. As soon as we can get rid of Stelmach and his crooked cronies you'll not hear of this, or ramp again.
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As I mentioned earlier, we don't have CWD in Manitoba and we don't have shoot farms either. Amazingly enough, we do have some disease-free elk farms though. :)
 
I sure hope it stays that way there Bearkilr, cause let me tell you, to say cwd is like dropping a wrench in a watch-work is a massive understatement.
It's a damn mess here, and it's getting worse. At it's current rate of spread my guess would be less than ten years to make the rockies.

Has the prion (?) always been here, and someone in a lab just, "discovered" it because they were monitoring game around diseased elk farms? Maybe, I don't know.
Part of me suspects there's nothing new under the sun, and the odd deer that we chose not to shoot over the years because, "it didn't look quite right", was really cwd, or something similar. The other part thinks, well, if it started around the elk farms, which it seems to have here, theres a very obvious solution. If it wasn't for the "old boys lobbying club", methinks that decision would have been made a long time ago here.
 
norskie said:
I know a few outdoor girls that can handle themselves, but I must say a 100lb girl who kills a wild boar with a knife would scare the crap out of me....

Do you have any pictures of this?
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I believe the last photos I saw were of winchesters pr girl in I think texas. Not sure of her wieght but she's small and damn good lucking. Her name escapes me right now. Just google some southern US hog huning outfitters. That's how I became interested in it. In texas you can hunt them with anything
 
Has the prion (?) always been here, and someone in a lab just, "discovered" it because they were monitoring game around diseased elk farms? Maybe, I don't know.
Part of me suspects there's nothing new under the sun, and the odd deer that we chose not to shoot over the years because, "it didn't look quite right", was really cwd, or something similar. The other part thinks, well, if it started around the elk farms, which it seems to have here, theres a very obvious solution. If it wasn't for the "old boys lobbying club", methinks that decision would have been made a long time ago here
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All evidence says it came in with the farmed elk. If had have been here in the wild I am sure there would have been a lot more sightings of animals in distress. We have also gone the odd animal in the wild testing posative to several. The testing of posative animals has moved from the west side of Sask to the centeral part of the province.

There are four main geographic areas where CWD appears to be well established, the first is south of Lloydminster in the Manitou Sand Hills, where the first CWD positive wild mule deer was detected in 2000. Since that time a total of 12 mule deer have tested positive for CWD with an overall prevalence of 0.45%. The second area is northeast of Lloydminster along the Bronson forest where the disease was first detected in 2002 in a white-tailed deer. Although the number of positives has remained quite low, a cluster of 6 cases were detected in 2007. In the fall of 2002, the disease was detected along the South Saskatchewan River valley near Saskatchewan Landing Provincial Park. The largest proportion of cervids has been tested from this area (over 12, 000) with 102 mule deer and 7 white-tailed deer testing positive for the disease. The disease has extended westward and in 2006, CWD was detected along the river valley near the Alberta border. Adjacent to this area, in 2005 Alberta had also detected their first case of CWD in wild deer. In 2005, a white-tailed deer found dead adjacent to some farm buildings near the town of Nipawin in north-central Saskatchewan tested positive for CWD. This was the first case of CWD in this area despite previous surveillance in 2001 and 2002. Additional sampling in the area in 2005, 2006 and 2007 detected an additional 35 positive deer (7, 20 and 9 positives respectively) with an average prevalence of 2.6% (with years combined). During the winter of 2008 two elk were found dead west of Nipawin. Both animals were submitted to the CCWHC and tested positive for CWD, marking the first time CWD has been found in elk in the wild in Saskatchewan. Based on the necropsy findings it does not appear that these elk died of CWD.
 
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