Shoot for Fun (more pics added)

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Most of us have a rifle or two we have hardly ever shot. We may have a serious rifle we shoot, but what about our Lee Enfield, or Mauser, or Garand, or M14, or SKS?

The Ontario rifle Association is presenting a number of shooting dates in Southern Ontario dedicated to shooting “fun” rifles. We will use a military range such as Camp Borden (near Barrie) and/or Winona (near Hamilton).

I think some guys are reluctant to come to an organized shooting day for fear they will perform badly. Suppose they can’t even get their rifle on paper?

Here is what we will do.

The day will start with plinking and sight zeroing at a 4 foot square target, with each shot being marked with an orange spotter. We will try to have front sight adjustment tools on hand so rifles can be properly zeroed.

For all prone shooting you can use an improvised rest, such as an ammo can, sand bag or shooting kit. The rule is that your forward hand must be holding the rifle, but your arm/wrist can be laying on a rest. No bi-pods.

All shooting will be at targets big enough that you should not miss the paper. You will probably miss the bull a few times….

Once everyone has plinked and zeroed, we will shoot a 10-shot prone slow fire match at 4 foot target with a nice black aiming mark.

Then we will shoot a 10-shot rapid fire at the same target. 10 shots in 45 seconds. This is real easy with a semi-auto, so long as you can reload quickly (semi-auto has a 5 shot limit, except the Garand with 8). Guys shooting a Enfield like this match because they are usually the only rifles with 10 shot magazines.

Then we move closer and shoot a 10 shot sitting snap target. The target pops up for a 3 second exposure – 10 times. Plenty of time to reload between shots. I have shot this match with a single shot rifle. We allow an extra delay between the 5th and 6th shot so magazines can be re-loaded. Personally, I just put a handful of ammo in my pocket if I have a 5 shot mag and load singly once the mag is empty.

At the same distance we shoot a moving target (at walking speed) from the sitting position. Magazine reloading procedure is same as the snap.
Then we move closer and shoot from the standing position. Course of fire will be a standing snap and a standing mover. Again, any rifle will work since there is plenty of time to reload. You can use a single shot Martini-Enfield as easily as a M14.

Record keeping of scores is optional. If you want to turn in your score and see how you did compared to others shooting a similar rifle – fine. And maybe you will win a fine bottle of Chateau Plonk 2009.

Shooting Notes:
I have shot this match with many different rifles. Last year I shot it with a Norinco SKS and won all but one of the matches. I was just as shocked as the other shooters, who were all convinced they would kick ass with their #4s, or Swedish Mausers.

This kind of shooting brings together a number of shooting issues. First, the rifle has to be well-zeroed. A good zero may be more important than a tight group. My SKS shot a bigger group than most of the other rifles, but it was well-zeroed, so my shots were around the bull.

Our new course of fire starts with plinking/zeroing , so rifles should be well zeroed. After the deliberate match, there is time to make a final little tweak if necessary.

Only the rapid fire match emphasizes magazine size or reloading smoothness. I have shot it with a Ross, #4, Mauser, SKS, Garand, Martini Enfield, Springfield, Win 94 30-30, and M14. All but the #4 required the magazine to be topped up during the match. With a stripper clip, this is real easy and fast. With a single shot you can still get 6 or 7 shots off. The bull is quite big, so all you have to do in 45 seconds is to fire aimed shots and reload once.

In the other matches I have tried various techniques and have found that the most reliable way to make sure I get to shoot all 10 shots is to shoot all the rounds in the mag and then load single shots from my pocket thereafter.

Do you have a milsurp you want to shoot? Or a hunting rifle? Lots of good shooting and good shooting practice from prone, sitting and standing.

If you are interested, pm me with your real email address and I will keep you advised of shooting dates.



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Now that sounds like a lot of fun. It's a pity it's on the other side of the country, as I'm sure as heck not good enough to enter regular matches out here right now :p
 
See, this is why I want to join the ORA. I have been toying around with joining them for a while now, but just have not gotten around to it. I would love to shoot at Bordon and Winona, as I live in Barrie.

I also hear that they have access to long distance shoots after you do the ORA training course.

Is there any chance sombody that is not in the ORA would be able to join in time and partake in the fun shoot? It looks like great fun.
 
We are extending this invitation to all and any rifles owners who want to shoot. Don't have to be an ORA member. If you are a heavy duty competitor in some sport, dust off your old #4 or your new SKS an come out for some plain old shooting fun.

If you are a hunter, and don't have a clunker, bring your hunting rifle. You willl have fun and get some real good sshooting practice.

If you are a relatively new gun owner, bring what you got and we will help you get it sighted in.

There must be quite a few new SKS and Norinco M14 shooters itching to wring out their rifles. Here's your chance!
 
Well that is great news!

I am relatively new, I have been in the sport just a few months now.


Depending on the day, I will come up and try out my Garand there. Any info on the details of the event, tine, location, etc?
 
PM me with your real email address and I will keep you advised. Click on my avtar, and one of the options it a PM (personal message).

The Garand is a great choice. I have used one of those more than any other rifle. Nice sights. Easy to adjust. But I still think it is broke each time it goes PING
 
Why not try an get this idea going at a regianal or provincial level ?
Say 1 in maritime canada
1 for quebec or quebec /ontario.
1 for prairies / 1 bc /1 up north ?

Sounds very basic / do -able ........
 
To the question asked above about the missing magazine on the #4.

I don't know what happened. My guess is that he failed to seat it properly and it fell out. He might be about to hear a loud "click". But he is shooting a snap match. About 10 seconds betwen exposures - plenty of time to load single shots.


The "VIntage Rifle Shoot" is presented so rifle owners can dust them off and have some fun. The course of fire is based on the service rifle program.

The ORA hopes that some of those who come out will take a look at our very full program of shooting on first class milirary ranges and decide to join.

Other provincial rifle associations are free to copy our program.

All we charge each shooter the guest fee and about $25 to cover the expenses and prize list (we give away bottles of wine.)
 
This sounds like a great time! We really should have one in AB.

Sheppard range in SE Calgary has monthly service rifle matches with a basic course of fire and lots of milsurp participation (I'm told). I plan to check it out with my Yugo M-48 this summer. They shoot two rounds of 25 rounds each, slow fire all with 5 rounds prone, 10 kneeling and 10 standing, then substitute sitting for kneeling the second round. Iron sights shoot in their own class and slings are allowed.

Mark
 
Drop me a PM once you know all the shoot info, if I'm around that weekend I think I'd like to try my hand. SOunds like a really interesting shoot.
By the way, what sort of distance are the targets at?

Anyone ever attempt it with an M1 Carbine?
 
We have a couple ranges around Ottawa that host annual Milshoots. I've been slacking lately and haven't attended in a year or 2.
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Looks like fun!! Some years back, our gun club held several "informal" events that were more fun than anything else. Balloon shoots, cops against the "bad guys", and other events. I attended a couple of shoots at Virden years ago that were great fun. Two people per team, ten minute time limit on a bunch of various targets at various ranges, any rifle calibre, no restrictions as to scope, action etc.. They were absolutely the best shoots I've ever been at. It is fine to have shoots where skill and fancy equipment are necessary, but to be "inclusive" is important to the rest of us. I've often thought a "farmer shoot", as opposed to a "cowboy shoot" where teams would use common firearms, for example - a three gun shoot, using a good old Lee Enfield or Mauser with five rounds, a good old single shot .22 bolt with, say, three rounds, and a single shot shotgun with two rounds. Heaven knows, there are Bubba'd LE's to had cheap, .22's abound, and single barrelled shotguns are still out there. We held a balloon shoot and advertised it open to anybody. It was great fun. The day just flew past. We had a weiner roast and a campfire for the onlookers.
 
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