Shooters Arms 1911

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I picked this up about 8 days ago. Another fast and painless purchase from Ellwood Epps. It's a gently used Shooters Arms 1911 in .9mm. The registration came today, so hopefully I will get to the range tomorrow. I should mention that I am a total 1911 newb, so any advice or tips would be welcome.



 
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Just shoot it, lots!
I bet the prior owner sold it because he couldn't live with the "idiot scratch" lol
 
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Nice 1911A1 pistola [newb scratch aside, though]. ;)

Best part of being a newb & buying a 1911 with the 'newb scratch' already on it, you don't have to worry about puttin' it there yourself. :p

You can just practice your re-assembly until you can do it without rubbing the slide stop across that part of the frame. :cool:

+1 what Hitzy said - shoot it, shoot it a lot! :rockOn:

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Congrats on the new pistol, the SAM's are a good gun.....I really like mine (Commander-E .45ACP).
The GI sights on yours are true to the original military versions of the 1911 and may take some getting used to, they were made to be rugged and for close up work.
 
heavenIsAlie said:
just not the .40 cal ones
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Haven't had any real major issues with mine....other then a soft firing pin my Omega has been running pretty good. The right mags made a big difference in feeding....and any TC bullets in a 1911 from 9mm to .45 can hang up on the feed ramp. If you can find some 180 round nose to load you will never have a problem.
 
Hitzy said:
Haven't had any real major issues with mine....other then a soft firing pin my Omega has been running pretty good. The right mags made a big difference in feeding....and any TC bullets in a 1911 from 9mm to .45 can hang up on the feed ramp. If you can find some 180 round nose to load you will never have a problem.
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round nose, tc, long loaded, or factory length with both the factory mag (why shouldnt a gun be expected to work with the mag they give you with it?) and tripp mags. Tried all of those in any combo I could, no dice on it working. Also my friend bought one, same problems. Plus all the other peoples guns not working who posted in the review thread. Not a great example of value. Also, my 9mm 1911 only eats TC bullets and never had a single hang up with them, it wasnt tweaked for them to run

BUT .40 is a huge pain to make work in a 1911, more so than .45 and 9mm so I do expect some issues with a budget 1911 in the cal. however it now has 224 rounds through it trying to make some combo work, and that took me 3 hours combined due to having to clear a billion stoppages. I hear their 9mm and .45 1911s are good and the fit/finish on my gun is decent so those are most likely good buys. the .40 cal ones should only be considered as cheap barrel/slide/frame kits to send to your gunsmith. Which is the exact reason I bought it, so worked for me but for a customer not expecting it its going to be quite disappointing.
 
I would be looking at the extractor and link length then if you tried different mags and ammo with no success.
 
Hitzy said:
Haven't had any real major issues with mine....other then a soft firing pin my Omega has been running pretty good. The right mags made a big difference in feeding....and any TC bullets in a 1911 from 9mm to .45 can hang up on the feed ramp. If you can find some 180 round nose to load you will never have a problem.
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Guess I've been lucky. The factory mag (Mec-Gar) works flawlessly (literally never had a jam) and I've had good luck using Chip McCormick Shooting Star 45 mags plus I've been using Lee 145 gr. cast SWC bullets and they have functioned without a hitch. Other than the trigger pull which was a little heavy out of the box it's been a good shooting piece.
 
ambishooter said:
Indeed, value for money. Better fit and finish than Norinco. Just try to avoid the Commander length version if you are planning to shoot farther than 20 m.
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Actually I have SAM Commanders in 45 and 9mm and they are a couple of the best fit 1911s I have ever owned. No problem at all holding the bull on 25 yard pistol targets.
 
savage112 said:
I've learned something already. I didn't know about the 'newb scratch'.;)
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OK,, see the scratch,, but, how do you avoid it?? Being a NEWBIE to 1911's,, Monday getting to look at "3" owner exp pal guns, all 60 yo,, how do you on anew gun, take it down with out scratching it??
 
Good for you. A fellow shooter from my club has a 9mm in SS. He is having problem with his shots. Not the gun though. Possibly the ammo. I tried it and I can hit a 6" group in 20m using a 3.4gr Titegroup 135gr bulet. Just not as tight as a full length 1911. I suggested trying a 5%-10% increase in powder using a 125-135 gr bullet.

BTW, he is trying to sell this same pistol, with under 500 rds fired so far.

ted_dent said:
Actually I have SAM Commanders in 45 and 9mm and they are a couple of the best fit 1911s I have ever owned. No problem at all holding the bull on 25 yard pistol targets.
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ambishooter said:
Good for you. A fellow shooter from my club has a 9mm in SS. He is having problem with his shots. Not the gun though. Possibly the ammo. I tried it and I can hit a 6" group in 20m using a 3.4gr Titegroup 135gr bulet. Just not as tight as a full length 1911. I suggested trying a 5%-10% increase in powder using a 125-135 gr bullet.

BTW, he is trying to sell this same pistol, with under 500 rds fired so far.
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I am using a Lee 124 gr. RN cast bullet over 3.4 g. of Alliant Promo. It's been very accurate in both my SAM and Kimber Stainless Target II. The load functions fine in both guns. As an aside, the SAM is the only 1911 I've owned (and I've had a least a dozen) that requires a bushing wrench to get the bushing to turn for removal. Also, the slide to frame fit was as tight as any gun I've got and that includes a Gold Cup and 2 Kimber Stainless Target IIs (45 & 9mm) and an STI Ranger II 9mm. I did do a little trigger work on it and that can really make a difference in accuracy if you go from a gritty 6 pound pull to a clean 3 pound pull.
 
ted_dent said:
...the SAM is the only 1911 I've owned (and I've had a least a dozen) that requires a bushing wrench to get the bushing to turn for removal...
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You haven't tried my STI Spartan, then! I actually did a little gentle lapping. It's still tight enough that I prefer to use a wrench, though.
:) Stuart
 
ted_dent said:
No I haven't, but if you send it to me I'll be happy to give it a field test. :D
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Hmmm.... I wouldn't mind field testing a Kimber Stainless Target II (esp. if we could actually go and shoot these things in a field- like the criminals do :evil:) How about a temporary swap?

:) Stuart
 
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