This dude clearly doesn't get what either "ethical" or "humane" mean.
Shooting a doe with 50bmg
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This dude clearly doesn't get what either "ethical" or "humane" mean.
The 50 BMG bullet shockwave destructive force myth was busted a while back. The guy in the OP video is full of it.
Oh we know he’s full of it. The question is whether or not HE knows he’s full of it. Is he stupid? Or a troll?
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Never heard of the guy before -
"Keith Warren is the authority and the outdoor expert that will help you become a better and more successful outdoors person."
https://highroadhunting.com/
Reading the comments posted on YouTube about the video and you get the picture. He's certainly full of it.
"Keith Warren is the authority and the outdoor expert that will help you become a better and more successful outdoors person."
https://highroadhunting.com/
Reading the comments posted on YouTube about the video and you get the picture. He's certainly full of it.
Purple shoulder
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- Winnipeg MB
There is no such thing as bad publicity.
A 243 is much more impressive on a milk jug than a .50 bmg
Regular 660gr ammo is only 2720 fps in a 29" barrel... Amax youre not likely to get any accuracy (or brass life) above 2600fps
The low speed, very streamlined shape, and tough construction make it pretty underwhelming on anything smaller than a full 5 gallon pail lengthwise
I would bet money that a 300 win mag would do more damage to a deer on anything less than a lengthwise shot
Regular 660gr ammo is only 2720 fps in a 29" barrel... Amax youre not likely to get any accuracy (or brass life) above 2600fps
The low speed, very streamlined shape, and tough construction make it pretty underwhelming on anything smaller than a full 5 gallon pail lengthwise
I would bet money that a 300 win mag would do more damage to a deer on anything less than a lengthwise shot
I am going to stand up for “the dude”......
It is clearly an ethical kill...... no doubt that the deer didn’t suffer......
I will also clearly state that I am a big fan of overkill vs underkill...... I just don’t want animals to suffer.....
If 50 bmg on a deer is really no big deal, then why so many mentions of it and why the “comment and subscribe” bs?......
Why the sensationalism around overgunning and the bs sucked
The eyes out stuff?
It is clearly an ethical kill...... no doubt that the deer didn’t suffer......
I will also clearly state that I am a big fan of overkill vs underkill...... I just don’t want animals to suffer.....
If 50 bmg on a deer is really no big deal, then why so many mentions of it and why the “comment and subscribe” bs?......
Why the sensationalism around overgunning and the bs sucked
The eyes out stuff?
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...4Qxa8BCCUwAA&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov
This is a video I think is more accurate of what would really happen
This is a video I think is more accurate of what would really happen
Link no worky.
I think I would counter that hunting with a 50bmg in the dark is unethical. Or maybe we could just shorten that to hunting with any caliber in the dark is unethical.
As with ANY caliber, shot placement is key - and it gets a lot harder in low light. He should have waited for a broad side shot, but was no doubt in a hurry because of the light, and chose a bad angle for any gun, especially a 50bmg.
I feel like maybe somewhere along the way, some folks have lost the meaning of these words...
unethical
[uhn-eth-i-kuh l]
adjective
lacking moral principles; unwilling to adhere to proper rules of conduct.
not in accord with the standards of a profession:
She treated patients outside the area of her training, and the appropriate medical organization punished her unethical behavior.
humane
[hyoo-meyn or, often, yoo-]
adjective
characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for people and animals, especially for the suffering or distressed:
humane treatment of prisoners.
acting in a manner that causes the least harm to people or animals:
humane trapping of stray pets.
Is using a 50bmg humane? Is it capable of delivering a consistent, quick kill? Then yes. It’s humane.
Is using a 50bmg ethical? Well, one of the tenets of hunters is to waste as little meat as possible. As was discussed above several times, shot placement is the key to this - no matter what cartridge you’re using. So yes. It’s ethical.
unethical
[uhn-eth-i-kuh l]
adjective
lacking moral principles; unwilling to adhere to proper rules of conduct.
not in accord with the standards of a profession:
She treated patients outside the area of her training, and the appropriate medical organization punished her unethical behavior.
humane
[hyoo-meyn or, often, yoo-]
adjective
characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for people and animals, especially for the suffering or distressed:
humane treatment of prisoners.
acting in a manner that causes the least harm to people or animals:
humane trapping of stray pets.
Is using a 50bmg humane? Is it capable of delivering a consistent, quick kill? Then yes. It’s humane.
Is using a 50bmg ethical? Well, one of the tenets of hunters is to waste as little meat as possible. As was discussed above several times, shot placement is the key to this - no matter what cartridge you’re using. So yes. It’s ethical.
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Sorry Galt. I should have been clearer.
Taking a shot at a deer in light conditions that do not permit proper shot placement is unethical.
Raccoon hunting involves lights, and coons treed by dogs that can’t go anywhere, allowing the hunter the conditions necessary for an ethical kill. Such conditions didn’t exist in the video above.
BigUglyMan
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A quick, clean kill is unethical? I'd like to see the math on that one worked out.
Rick from ATRS hunted quite a bit with a 50. I saw the results on a mulie doe. But he didn't shoot it in the head (because headshots on game at 700+ yards are stupid) but he did drop it pretty reliably.
BigUglyMan
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Because it's something the military uses? By that logic we should also leave "on the battlefield" such favourites as the 223, 308, 7x57, 8x57, 30-40 Krag, 30-06, 303 British, 300 WM, 338 Lapua and the 45-70. Also interesting, the 300WM, 338 Lapua and 45-70 were commercially available to the civilian market before they were adopted by the military. Which poses a very interesting "chicken and the egg" conundrum.
