Shooting left of target

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So long story short....my daughter is taking up Trap and is constantly shooting to the left of the target....we patterned her gun, her shooting my gun, her shooting by buddies gun, the pattern is always 90-100% left of target.

Looking back down the barrel towards her, her eye is not over the rib. Tried adjusting the comb a bit....not much luck.

Looks like may need to buy a trap gun with fully adjustable comb and recoil pad....but before we do that.....any suggestions?
 
Have you checked her for eye dominance ? The reason I ask is at 90-100% maybe it's a possibility ? Maybe she is cross shooting. This is of course if she is shooting with both eyes open.
My daughter is left handed and right eye dominant.
We recently had a day skeet lesson with Todd Bender and according to him in his experience 40% of female shooters he deals with have this problem.
 
"...her eye is not over the rib..." That'd do it. Stock doesn't fit her properly. I'd guess too long.
Have her put the butt into her elbow and see if she can reach the trigger. Then have her shoulder a yard stick like she would a shotgun and see where her trigger finger comes. That's very close to what her LOP should be. Then buy the shotgun to fit. You can get it perfect for her when you put on the recoil pad.
 
A great many ladies that I've coached have found a reasonably "standard" stock to be both too long and too low.

If the gun is mounted in the right place and is neither too long nor too low, then it would seem some cast off (assuming she's right handed) will be necessary.
 
I think the suggestions here are good and I sure would look at them. I have wondered though... Does her eye line up with the rib if she lifts the shotgun to her cheek and holds it there before positioning it on her shoulder?
 
If she's a right handed shooter, her eye isn't over the rib, and is constantly shooting left she is using her left eye to align the shot. If she can't see down the rib with her right she will obviously look along the side of the barrel with her left eye, causing her to shoot left.
 
All of the above answers are what it might be and none of them is right or wrong. But we don't know even whether the shooter is right handed or left. Until someone actually sees her mount and shoot the gun it's all supposition and guess work. Eliminate the guessing game. Get her to a decent instructor with access to a patterning board. He or she will in short order sort out what the problem is.

My guess is eye dominance because she has tried several guns and the problem is consistent. A little scotch tape on her glasses might be all she needs. But until someone who knows what they are doing sees the girl shoot then my guess is a right or wrong as anyone else's.
 
Claybuster said:
All of the above answers are what it might be and none of them is right or wrong. But we don't know even whether the shooter is right handed or left. Until someone actually sees her mount and shoot the gun it's all supposition and guess work. Eliminate the guessing game. Get her to a decent instructor with access to a patterning board. He or she will in short order sort out what the problem is.

My guess is eye dominance because she has tried several guns and the problem is consistent. A little scotch tape on her glasses might be all she needs. But until someone who knows what they are doing sees the girl shoot then my guess is a right or wrong as anyone else's.
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There is a lot of sense here, and eye dominance might not be a bad starting point. Like you say CB, it seems the logical basis for the problem and it is relatively easy to get a preliminary idea of what her dominance pattern is. Of course, then one is stuck with the more complex question of what to do about it, and that can be difficult. Recommendations range from learning to shoot without correction right through to blocking off one eye using translucent blocks like scotch tape, as you again note. Just to illustrate the complexity here... I started missing some shots that I could quite easily shoot 10/10 on in skeet. They were the ones where I strained to see the bird quickly (1 high house is a good example and 7 low house, when I was pressing to make the first shot fast. The first shot on 7 low is one where I look at the bird's flight just a bit longer on the single, rather than try to take it super fast. I want to set myself up for the quick shot on the double.). I am strongly right eye dominant and my optomotrist was able to show that my left eye would try to take over when I was working hard to see because the prescription in my right eye had changed slightly. A correction of the prescription for my right eye, and a bit of work adjusting my shooting, and my confidence was back on these shots. It was a strange experience and illustrates the need to see a good optometrist to figure out what is going on, preferrably one that has some interest in solving such a problem.
 
Bigbubba said:
So long story short....my daughter is taking up Trap and is constantly shooting to the left of the target....we patterned her gun, her shooting my gun, her shooting by buddies gun, the pattern is always 90-100% left of target.

Looking back down the barrel towards her, her eye is not over the rib. Tried adjusting the comb a bit....not much luck.

Looks like may need to buy a trap gun with fully adjustable comb and recoil pad....but before we do that.....any suggestions?
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Right handed shooter with right eye dominant correct?
Her right eye when not centered on the rib but a little to left would make the Point of Impact left of Point of Aim.
Sorry Dad but you need a stock fitter and then a new shotgun for her.;)
:)
 
Monte Carlo stocks makes a different with ladies as well

I'm shooting int. skeet since 1994. Over the years, I've heard that women needs higher comb as they usually have longer necks. You can verify this by checking if her head is tilted to the right when she mounts the gun.

If her eyes are not leveled, i.e. left eye is higher than right eye, she will see more with the left eye... That is the reciepe for shooting left constantly...

Other comments made earlier are valid as well. Wanted to pass this just to give you another thing to look into.

Fix could be as easy as taping some empty shell boxes in the field and test... If works, you can purchase self adhesive pads...

Take care,

aakoksal
 
I haven't watched her shoot close enough to see whether she shoots with both eyes open. Canting the gun left can also make it shoot left.
 
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