Shooting Pistol Vs Revolvers

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A common problem I have is that I can shoot 7 out of 10 rounds into black at 25 yards with a revlover my 35 vs my pistols,,,

why does this happen, was playing with my CZ 75B today and it seem like I am pulling almost every shot low with a 2 hand grip. Seem switching back and forth from pistol to a 6 shooter is not as easy for me.
 
Takes practice. Your single action 6 gun trigger is probably 2-3lbs while it is likely 6lbs on the CZ. Just keep at it and you will improve.
 
Are you by any chance anticipating the recoil and pushing the muzzle down to compensate? Hard trigger pull usually moves the point of impact to the left or right, depending on the handedness of the shooter. Down, is often a sign of flinching.
 
Get some dummy rounds and load them in with live rounds in your mag. You want to load them so you don't know what the sequence will be. When you hit a dummy round you will see what you are doing to the gun that you can't see with a live round.

The revolver is great for this. Load 4 rounds in a random pattern then spin the cylinder and close. One of the best training exercises. Dry firing is good but when you start shooting for real the recoil and noise can effect you.
 
I concur with "GRIZZLYPEG" and can only add that low shooting for me can be caused by the shape of the rear part of the handle of the gun. I own two 1911s and I insist on curved mainspring housings because the flat ones end up causing the gun to point lower in my hands...this is why, in 1924, Colt put curved mainspring housings on the new M1911A1 for the US military - too many GIs were shooting low.

Something to consider...plus other good advice given by others here...
 
THOR74 said:
I concur with "GRIZZLYPEG" and can only add that low shooting for me can be caused by the shape of the rear part of the handle of the gun. I own two 1911s and I insist on curved mainspring housings because the flat ones end up causing the gun to point lower in my hands...this is why, in 1924, Colt put curved mainspring housings on the new M1911A1 for the US military - too many GIs were shooting low.

Something to consider...plus other good advice given by others here...
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I have tried everything with my position but after having shot about 500 rounds, my Norinco 1911 clone (NP 28) also shoots low. I have to aim with the base of the front of the barrel and not the front sight....Could this be resolved in the shame fashion ? I was also thinking of having an adjustable rear sight installed is it feasable for a reasonable price :confused:?

Thanks

All
 
All said:
I have tried everything with my position but after having shot about 500 rounds, my Norinco 1911 clone (NP 28) also shoots low. I have to aim with the base of the front of the barrel and not the front sight....Could this be resolved in the shame fashion ? I was also thinking of having an adjustable rear sight installed is it feasable for a reasonable price
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I assume you've ruled out possible mechanical issues.

Are you grouping well with whatever pistols you're concerned with, yes/no?

If you aren't grouping well, then you have to look at what you're doing in your grip, form, etc.

If you're grouping well, then the issue is to get the point of aim coincident with the point of impact.

Heavy, slower bullets print much higher than light, faster bullets with the same point of aim. I'd be annoyed to shoot other than what I wanted to in order to address sight problems, however.

A half decent pistolsmith can both take a look at your handguns to ensure all is well and give you a ballpark figure for replacement sights.
 
Thanks, my question was indeed not clear enough.

I get good and consistent groupings with my .22 cal Browning Buckmark. I have adjusted the rear sight (a little up) and it shoots exactly where I aim . I have shot about 2 500 rounds with it since last fall, so I am getting better with it (about 2 inches groupings at 30 feet in my best days).

Got my 1911 clone a month ago and shot about 500 rounds until now. The first time I shot with it I couldn’t even hit the target :redface:, I then realized that my grip was not right and I was not using the tip of my finger to shoot. After having this worked out, I got more consistent results, (yes I now hit the target with my bests groupings of 5 to 6 inches at 30 feet) I don’t jerk the trigger and try to be very smooth, with a non too tight and non too loose grip etc, but I find the gun still shoots low and I have to compensate with my aim.

I understand that good shooting skills, precision and consistency involve a lot of work and practice, but I was just wondering and wanted to know from the Board Members if it might be a 1911 or bigger than .22 guns thing, or a neophyte shooter thing…

The rear sight on my 1911 clone is non adjustable, I could maybe have an adjustable rear sight installed by a gunsmith but I am wondering if it is worth the expense ? Alternatively I could maybe just continue to practice with my 1911 clone “as is”, put a lot of rounds into it, and eventually get a decent production 357/38 revolver or 9mm pistol for serious shooting training and eventual black badge course…:confused:
 
It seems to me that trigger control with a revolver is difficult for most people.

It's really easy.

First - use DAO.

Second - do not stack the trigger (stop mid pull), keep a slow continuous pull until the surprise let off.

Third - dry fire lots.

Forth - go to the range with someone and have them load 5 live and 1 dummy, spin the cylinder and close, then in a safe manner hand you the revolver to fire. This will check for a flinch.

Master these steps and speed will come into play.

You can do this with an autoloader too.
 
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Thanks, my question was indeed not clear enough.

I get good and consistent groupings with my .22 cal Browning Buckmark. I have adjusted the rear sight (a little up) and it shoots exactly where I aim . I have shot about 2 500 rounds with it since last fall, so I am getting better with it (about 2 inches groupings at 30 feet in my best days).

Got my 1911 clone a month ago and shot about 500 rounds until now. The first time I shot with it I couldn’t even hit the target :redface:, I then realized that my grip was not right and I was not using the tip of my finger to shoot. After having this worked out, I got more consistent results, (yes I now hit the target with my bests groupings of 5 to 6 inches at 30 feet) I don’t jerk the trigger and try to be very smooth, with a non too tight and non too loose grip etc, but I find the gun still shoots low and I have to compensate with my aim.

I understand that good shooting skills, precision and consistency involve a lot of work and practice, but I was just wondering and wanted to know from the Board Members if it might be a 1911 or bigger than .22 guns thing, or a neophyte shooter thing…

The rear sight on my 1911 clone is non adjustable, I could maybe have an adjustable rear sight installed by a gunsmith but I am wondering if it is worth the expense ? Alternatively I could maybe just continue to practice with my 1911 clone “as is”, put a lot of rounds into it, and eventually get a decent production 357/38 revolver or 9mm pistol for serious shooting training and eventual black badge course…:confused:
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That why I always said that a .22 is not a good first gun, because when you get used to a very low recoil gun and go for a high recoil, you will need a certain time to get use to again. IMO things should turn around, learn to shoot a centerfire first.
 
Trigun said:
That why I always said that a .22 is not a good first gun, because when you get used to a very low recoil gun and go for a high recoil, you will need a certain time to get use to again. IMO things should turn around, learn to shoot a centerfire first.
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You might be right...time and practice will tell me.:cool:
 
Rick said:
Heavy, slower bullets print much higher than light, faster bullets with the same point of aim. I'd be annoyed to shoot other than what I wanted to in order to address sight problems, however.
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Still, I will be trying to shoot with heavier bullets, just to check if it's going to help my groupings.

Thanks for your suggestion :cool:
 
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