If you're NUTZ ONLY and a father -in -law with a ton of money and really a good lawyer and a nicer police officer and at the end stupid crown attoreny
Shooting Restricted on your own Property
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If you're NUTZ ONLY and a father -in -law with a ton of money and really a good lawyer and a nicer police officer and at the end stupid crown attoreny
bearkilr
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Answered your own question there,no?
Your statement in the previous post said:
It might be possible to shoot the firearm from within the residence
You're saying it's legal to discharge a firearm in your house? Think again.
Answered your own question there,no?
Your statement in the previous post said:
It might be possible to shoot the firearm from within the residence
You're saying it's legal to discharge a firearm in your house? Think again.
If there is no municipal by-laws preventing shooting...
What law makes discharging a firearm inside your house illegal? What law makes it illegal to load a gun inside your house?
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Aside from a "self defense" scenario, all provinces have laws prohibiting the discharge of firearms where it is unsafe to do so. That's a pretty ambiguous law, as many are.
If you think you can convince a judge that it is safe to fire a handgun in your house, have at 'er.
BTW, this thread should be in legalese, with the other gazillion "shooting restricteds on my property" threads.
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Criminal Code of Canada:
Careless use of firearm, etc.
86. (1) Every person commits an offence who, without lawful excuse, uses, carries, handles, ships, transports or stores a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any ammunition or prohibited ammunition in a careless manner or without reasonable precautions for the safety of other persons
You can bet that you'd get charged with firing a handgun from within,inside/wherever other than at an approved range.
The only legal place to discharge a restricted firearm without an ATC is at an approved range. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
I'm not saying I agree with it, but that is the law. If you'd like to challenge it, go right ahead. The gov't has deep pockets.
Sure. But that is not what the discussion is about, is it?
The section of the CC that you quoted could be applied to any unsafe or careless action, anywhere.
You are making assumptions about safety without any basis for doing so.
Incidentally, you did refer to provincial laws.
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Do you really think a crown prosecutor is going to only look under the Firearms Act for an appropriate charge?
A Federal law would apply to all provinces, would it not?
The short answer is on the FAQ page from the CFC
Q. What do I need to do if I want to set up a place on my property for target shooting?
Check with your municipality to see if firearms can lawfully be discharged in your area. Also check with the Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) of your province or territory to find out if the place where you will be target shooting needs to be approved under the Shooting Clubs and Shooting Ranges Regulations.Even if your range does not need approval, you may wish to consult with your CFO for advice on how to make your range safe to ensure that projectiles do not stray onto neighbouring property and that there are adequate warning systems in place to warn people they are entering an area where shooting activities are taking place.
So depending on where in Bantario this property is, then maybe. But chances are he would have to get it approved as a range and/or you would have to have an ATT for his address.
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Q. What do I need to do if I want to set up a place on my property for target shooting?
Check with your municipality to see if firearms can lawfully be discharged in your area. Also check with the Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) of your province or territory to find out if the place where you will be target shooting needs to be approved under the Shooting Clubs and Shooting Ranges Regulations.Even if your range does not need approval, you may wish to consult with your CFO for advice on how to make your range safe to ensure that projectiles do not stray onto neighbouring property and that there are adequate warning systems in place to warn people they are entering an area where shooting activities are taking place.
So depending on where in Bantario this property is, then maybe. But chances are he would have to get it approved as a range and/or you would have to have an ATT for his address.
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I'll make it easy for everyone. The search function works and we're using up valuable server space which should be reserved for the EE.
SEE HERE: http://canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129060&highlight=shooting+restricted+property
SEE HERE: http://canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129060&highlight=shooting+restricted+property
I'll make it easy for everyone. The search function works and we're using up valuable server space which should be reserved for the EE.
SEE HERE: http://canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129060&highlight=shooting+restricted+property
This is not an answer this is a link to 29 pages of assumptions and hearsay.
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bearkilr
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Then perhaps someone has an answer other than telling those new to the sport to fire away with their handguns out of the porch door?
Right now, this is the answer,unless you care to challenge the current laws. Let me know how that works out.
im starting to see why wendy is kicking our butt'sI refer back to post # 29 where the FAQ from the CFC website states to contact your CFO. And the CFO will give you further direction as to whether or not that area requires him to have his "range" approved.
This is what I would have someone that is new to the sport do. As it has been 5 plus years since I lived in Ont and the OP didn't give a county or region. So I would not give a definite answer, yet point them in the direction of the person who can.
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I don't know why this comes up every week. Keep it simple: Get a range membership and shoot your restricteds there. Attempting to figure the wording of the law to favour discharging restricteds/prohibiteds anywhere but a range will get you nothing but trouble with the police. You can argue it on here all you want, but try it and see how far your arguements take you in front of some anti-gun Liberal appointed judge and some equally anti-gun prosecutor out to make a career. Is it worth losing your firearms and gaining a criminal record over? I wouldn't think so. I know lots of farmers do it and get away with it, but it's only a matter of time before someone gets caught.
I know it sucks ass, but until we see some major regime changes and a swing in the general consensus of the population, we're stuck with it.
I envy the people in places like Montana where you can shoot gophers, play out in the bush in general, camp and always keep your handgun handy.
Keep it simple: Get a range membership and shoot your restricteds there. Attempting to figure the wording of the law to favour discharging restricteds/prohibiteds anywhere but a range will get you nothing but trouble with the police. You can argue it on here all you want, but try it and see how far your arguements take you in front of some anti-gun Liberal appointed judge and some equally anti-gun prosecutor out to make a career. Is it worth losing your firearms and gaining a criminal record over? I wouldn't think so. I know lots of farmers do it and get away with it, but it's only a matter of time before someone gets caught.I know it sucks ass, but until we see some major regime changes and a swing in the general consensus of the population, we're stuck with it.
I envy the people in places like Montana where you can shoot gophers, play out in the bush in general, camp and always keep your handgun handy.
I have four sections (2560 acres) of land in southern AB. All fenced and posted. My house is square in the middle. I live alone. Food plot is planted 50 yards away and is viewable from the balcony off my second story bedroom. Nearest occupied dwelling is 10 miles away. When I wake up most mornings, I'm greeted with the splendor of mule deer feeding at the garden plot. I have a walk-in safe for my firearms in the bedroom. Question? After removing the sleep from my eyes and opening the balcony doors, can I shoot them using my AR-10? Season is open, sun is up and I have tags...
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bearkilr
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Of course you can, just don't get caught. I'd suggest keeping a bolt action 308 using the same ammo real handy.
Its amazing how one has to have EVERY angle figured out simply to own and shoot a firearm. That's oppression in itself but one we put up with because we must, but still....absolutely ridiculous nevertheless. I wouldn't give up my right for the world, however.
