Shooting slugs

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I just bought a Mossberg with a rifled barrel and a scope that is mounted on the receiver. I have been shooting Winchester Super X sabots 2 3/4". Accuracy is poor. about 5"-7" @ 100 meters.

Are the more expensive slugs any more accurate?

How often do these Rifled barrels need to be cleaned when shooting Sabots?

Can anything be done to the gun itself to make it more accurate?

Is anyone reloading their own ammo using pistol or 45-70 bullets?

Any advice would be muchly appreciated.
Ian
 
More expensive certainly doesn't guarantee accuracy. I think you have to do things the old fashioned way and buy an assortment and shoot them until you find the one that works in your gun. I found cheap Winchester Power Point Slugs are amazingly accurate in my shotgun, but not necessarily in all shotguns.
 
Is the discarding sabot for a rifled barrel? I have the same mossberg rifle barrel and it works great for slugs made for a rifled barrel. I also have some rifled slugs that I bought inadvertently and they are way more accurate in the smooth waterfowl barrel than the rifled barrel.
 
I talked to a couple of guys at the range and they couldn't hit doo doo. After looking at their set up I realized their scope was loose.

Check the obvious first.

Wg
 
5-7" at 100 meters with a friggen shot gun. To me that is 100% awesome shooting.

Is this shooting the gun in a locked in bench vice? Thats 110 yards. So you are in the 6-8" kill zone of a big game animal, mainly a deer.

How much more on target do you need to be?

I sighted in my mossberg 835 at 45 yards using Hornady 300g 2 3/4" Sabots and got a 3-4" group on 3 shots. Can't beat that. (Using a Bushnell trophey Red dot.)

Shotguns are not precise target rifles.
 
Pie plate at a 100 is what the average will be. Your gun may peform better if you find a particular ammo it likes best. Dont expect rifle accuracy
 
"...with a rifled barrel and a scope..." It's the same as any rifle if you're not reloading. You have to try a box of as many brands as you can to find the ammo your Mossberg shoots best.
"...Bushnell trophey Red dot..." Not made for precise shot placement. The dot covers about 4" of the target. A scope with cross hairs can easily give 3" or less groups at 100.
"...have some rifled slugs..." Made for smooth bores not rifled barrels.
 
I guess that I should have bought an in line muzzle loader instead. 5" groups at 50 yards! #### I might as well shoot my bow. Anybody looking for a slightly used slug gun?
 
You mentioned your scope is mounted to the receiver. Typically there is some slop on most shotguns. If you were to shim the barrel and receiver with some thin strip of aluminum you will take that slop out and your gun will be more accurate.

As others have mentioned, try a bunch of different slugs, slug guns are notoriously picky about ammunition.
 
I guess that I should have bought an in line muzzle loader instead. 5" groups at 50 yards! s**t I might as well shoot my bow. Anybody looking for a slightly used slug gun?

You said 5"-7" @ 100 meters. At 50 yards I would suspect something is wrong (wrong ammo choice, something loose, scope bad, etc.) but 100 meters is not bad, especially for a shotgun with a receiver mounted scope.
 
Today I mounted a different scope and things improved. I have never seen a scope go south so fast. The Bushnell scope that I bought with the gun failed in less than a dozen shots. With the old Leupold strait four I shot a 4" group @ 100 meters and I would be happy with that if I can repeat that tomorrow.
Also I did notice some slop between the barrel and the receiver while cleaning the gun this afternoon and I will try shimming the barrel as suggested.
Thanks guys for all of your help and I will post my results when this experiment concludes
Ian
 
Shot guns are abusive to scopes and one should choose a quality scope.
Most bushnell scopes are shy of being good quality scopes.
 
First of all, I have always used Bushnell scopes, and currently I have a trophy shotgun scope on both my 1100 and my 870. I have never had an issue with either of the scopes. Granted, I think that if you go below the trophy line of scopes you've gone to cheap, and you might have problems.

Both my shotguns have rifled barrels, and I tried many brands of slugs before I found one that works for my guns. Actually there are two slugs that work, but the first, the Remington brand Buckhammer, although accurate (2" @ 100) is very abusive on the shoulder, not to mention the shotgun. The second slug and the one that I used to shoot a buck at 150 paces with is the Barnes tipped expander, loaded by Federal, premium brand. With the Federal slugs I get 1 1/2'' to 2" consistently at 100 yard. Full bored rifled slugs work in a rifled barrel and shoot fairly accurately for the first two or three shots then the rifling gets so fouled with lead that you might as well be shooting a smooth bore. I don't reccomend you try these slugs because trying to get the lead out of the rifling is near to impossible.

Going back to the buck I shot, not only are they very accurate, but very powerful as well. The velocity on the box is 1900 fps for a 3/4 ounce slug. At the measured 150 long paces the slug hit the deer in the shoulder piercing the lungs but not the heart, but still the deer went down right away, then got up and ran ten feet, collapsed and was stone dead by the time I got there a minute later. Alse the slug broke both shoulders and exited stage left. Too bad I would have liked to have seen if it was a text book expansion. From the exit wound one could tell that the slug had expanded, but all the same the damage was not that extensive and the meat around the hole was not a write off. I love these slugs.
 
Today I mounted a different scope and things improved. I have never seen a scope go south so fast. The Bushnell scope that I bought with the gun failed in less than a dozen shots. With the old Leupold strait four I shot a 4" group @ 100 meters and I would be happy with that if I can repeat that tomorrow.
Also I did notice some slop between the barrel and the receiver while cleaning the gun this afternoon and I will try shimming the barrel as suggested.
Thanks guys for all of your help and I will post my results when this experiment concludes
Ian

Most people use pop cans as shims. Sometimes 2 layers are needed.

There is a "how to" sticky on it in the slug shooting section of shotgun world that might be helpful.
 
I talked to a couple of guys at the range and they couldn't hit doo doo. After looking at their set up I realized their scope was loose.

Check the obvious first.

Wg
:agree:

When setting up my son's rifled 590 we got everything right and then the groups went all to hell. At about $3.00 per round that hurts. I find the recoil on these guns quite substantial and I shoot a .300 Winchester Mag without being bothered by recoil. Thinking about the recoil I checked the scope mounts and they had come loose. We used blue loctite after changing the set up with better rings and mount and now it shoots around 2 inches at 80 yds. (Didn't have a 100 yd set up.) I have a set up on my 870 rifled barrel gun and I can shoot 3 inch groups at 100 yds. with it using Hornady sabots. I think Maka is on to something.
 
I shimmed the barrel as B-N suggested and it did help I shot two groups that were around 4" @100 meters. Good enough, I can't see more than 75 meters where I hunt Anyways. Thanks guys for all your input.
Ian
 
I have a Mossberg 935 with the rifled slug barrel. I tried Remington and Winchester sabots without much success. The Hornady SST's work the best for me. I can now get 2"-3" groups at 100yds. I did have to purchase a better quality scope too. Originally I purchased a Bass Pro Redhead shotgun scope for $119.99. The cross hairs kept moving and the cheap scope mounts kept coming loose. I upgraded to a Bushnell trophy at $199.00 with weaver mounts ($30.00) and I finally have a great gun. They worked perfect on an 8 point buck at 90-100 yds. two weeks ago.
Rick in London
 
my dad, brother and myself all bought mossbergs with rifled barrels this year for deer hunting. Their's are the 500 and mines the 535. I shoot Remington Copper solid sabots, 1450fps 1ounce slug . I tried about 4 differnet kinds and these shoot the best for me. About 3" 3 shot group at 100yards. My dad and brother use the Hornady sst's, they didnt shoot worth a damn in my gun.
 
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