Shooting technique

1. very end of the finger on the trigger
2. sight picture.. the target looks slightly blurry as mostly focusing on the front sight.. i shoot with one eye closed, but i'd like to eventually learn how to shoot with both open. also dont think its possible if doing longer range shooting
3. to mix things up, like you i look up on the forum for what people do/practice at range and try new things out.. also watch shooting videos see if i can get inspired to try something aswell.. maybe go between rapid fire/ slow fire sometimes?
4. somewhere between a firm handshake and a deathgrip.. as hard as i hold my #### when im jerkin it would be the best way to describe it
5. left hand i grasp harder than my right hand(right handed shooter here) with the thumbs forward grip
6. havent started practicing follow up shots yet as i barely have fundamentals of shooting technique down yet

+1 on the dry firiing practice drills, been starting to do those, and see alot of improvement..
 
Training videos are definitely not a replacement for live training, but they are helpful to a new shooter.

Have a look for Magpul Dynamics: Art of the Dynamic Handgun, and Haley Strategic: Adaptive handgun.

The trouble with good training in Canada is that knowing how to shoot a pistol well means knowing how to shoot people well.
We aren't suppose to talk about that sort of thing here, so very few places offer that level of training...

Being in Alberta, you probably have a leg up on most of us. Hopefully someone will chime in with a good pistol course you can take locally.
 
Tongarirohiker said:
TDC, thanks for the advice. I know that reading and watching a book is no replacement for proper training, and if you have some Edmonton-area recommendations, I'm happy to take them. It's also a matter of finding the time and lining up schedules. Real life gets in the way of hobbies. So, with that, I do what I can.

1. I'm shooting a CZ SP-01, 99% of the time shooting SA. Are you saying that shooting a DAO gun, you may want to use the first joint, or shooting any gun DA?

5. Are you talking about a thumbs forward grip? This is what I've been practicing. You're right, it screws with you at first, but the recoil control is excellent.

6. Sorry if it came across that way. I'm a golfer and as much as impressing people is great, I'm really just challenging and competing with myself. When I say I wanna rock it, I wanna know that I did the best I could.
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I hear you and I'm sure most others do too when it comes to life interfering with hobbies. As for DAO guns your finger placement may as in might need to be adjusted for some guns with long and heavy pulls. SIG and Beretta are two that come to mind that often require the user to use the first joint of their finger to facilitate the first long/heavy DA pull. That being said, it puts your finger in a poor position for the following SA shots. This is one reason why a DA/SA gun is far from ideal for competition or service, but I digress. For DAO guns that are striker fired, their length and weight of pull is short and light respectively. The centre of the first pad works for all but the stubbiest of fingers. Same placement for SA guns.

Thumbs forward or leading thumbs, same grip. Stick with it and make sure your support hand wrist is canted forward and locked out if possible. If you do it right your left thumb(assuming right handed shooter) and index/trigger finger should be opposing one another along the frame of the gun. If you were to take the gun out of your hands you should be able to "clap" with your left thumb and right index/trigger finger.

The comment about impressing people was directed towards anyone and everyone who deems this important. A fast draw only to shoot yourself or someone else is never cool. Someone who takes it slow and methodically while focusing on form and safety is far cooler to watch. Its a sign of dedication and maturity.

TDC
 
I hate to criticize the very informative video posted on the first page, but..
For the gangsta grip you rotate the gun 90 degrees COUNTER clockwise, not clockwise as he incorrectly states in the video. Mind you, left handers would rotate the gun clockwise...

Just sayin...:ang3
 
Guys, these are all excellent tips. A friend of mine took me out to his range this weekend and we tried a few things out. I found that the placement of my finger on the trigger plays a huge part in what happens with the shot. Despite what most of you stated, I find that if I put the pad of my finger on the trigger, I get a strange movement of the gun directly left and down. If I put it on the tip of my finger (basically under the middle of my finger nail), I can isolate my trigger pull from the rest of my hand and not have any involuntary movement. Guess my hand's just built differently. However, the rest of your advice has been invaluable and I've already found my groups tightening up. I've turned "front sight front sight front sight" into a mantra and that's helping me reacquire my target faster.

Have any of you guys gone stateside for handgun courses/training? Any issues bringing your gear across the border?

Again, thanks for the advice. Even with a lack of proper training, these tips have been helpful in making range trips more enjoyable.
 
TDC said:
Seek professional training. You can't learn to shoot by reading a book, watching a video, or self diagnosis. You don't know, what you don't know.


TDC
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So how did the first professional shooter learn to shoot...before anyone "taught" him? God himself came down and showed him the ways?

Self learning is not easy but it works...just cause someones "style" doesn't match Mr. Tactical's doesn't mean its wrong...if he hits what hes aiming at how is that "wrong"?
 
TDC said:
The comment about impressing people was directed towards anyone and everyone who deems this important. A fast draw only to shoot yourself or someone else is never cool. Someone who takes it slow and methodically while focusing on form and safety is far cooler to watch. Its a sign of dedication and maturity.

TDC
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Because ALL fast draws...by someone skilled or not leads into shooting of themselves/others. The opinion you have of your self is huge. Hope we never cross paths in real life or you will tell me I walk incorrectly or my shirt doesn't look right.
 
jeffcarr88 said:
Because ALL fast draws...by someone skilled or not leads into shooting of themselves/others. The opinion you have of your self is huge. Hope we never cross paths in real life or you will tell me I walk incorrectly or my shirt doesn't look right.
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Only the guilty get offended. Did you shoot yourself drawing too quickly? Nowhere did I say all quick/rapid draws result in someone nd themselves. That was your ignorant interpretation. What I said was people tend to focus on being fast over being safe and efficient about the draw. Drawing faster than your ability and with no or poor form leads to people getting shot.

Tdc
 
Nope...just tired of you ####ting on every/any thing that is not TDC approved.

It doesn't matter how fast someone whips their gun out...as long as they keep their FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER until they are on target...it WILL NOT fire.

Please tell me where you got your training in making a gun fire by fast movement, without a trigger pull?

FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR ON TARGET AND READY TO SHOOT....is rule #1 in your course...
 
jeffcarr88 said:
Nope...just tired of you ####ting on every/any thing that is not TDC approved.

It doesn't matter how fast someone whips their gun out...as long as they keep their FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER until they are on target...it WILL NOT fire.

Please tell me where you got your training in making a gun fire by fast movement, without a trigger pull?

FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR ON TARGET AND READY TO SHOOT....is rule #1 in your course...
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Thanks for the ever useful tidbit of common sense. What you fail to grasp, is the concept of rushing a movement which leads to fingers on triggers before the sights are aligned with an appropriate/selected target. AGAIN, those who rush things are those who focus on being fast over being competent, and those people are generally those who haven't a clue what they're doing. Put all that in a bowl, toss, and you end up with extra holes in people and property.

As for my sh*tting on everything, get used to it. You don't know what you don't know, and I'll gladly inform you of that.

TDC
 
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