shooting while kneeling

Right on :)

Have fun and shoot safe :cheers:

John

Thanks John. I truly do appreciate all the great advice that you and the others have posted on this thread, as well as the pm's I have received to encourage my participation in the IDPA. I have the good fortune of having had Onagoth as my NSO instructor and I look forward to his continued mentoring as I plod my way through this sport. It's unfortunate that sometimes disagreements escalate as they do. I think part of it is that the impersonality of the computer screen is a barrier to effective communication, because we cannot see facial expressions or hear vocal inflections. I'll bet that if half of these discussions took place face to face over a friendly beer, they wouldn't get nearly so involved. For what it's worth, I would go for a beer with Onagoth anytime, as I'm sure I would with you as well John, if I ever had the opportunity.
 
For what it's worth, I would go for a beer with Onagoth anytime, as I'm sure I would with you as well John, if I ever had the opportunity.

Ah, but what KIND of beer? This could take the debate in a whole new, spicy direction!

And whichever you choose, I wouldn't drink it from the kneeling or prone positions if I were you. Standing or sitting is best, but only from cover.
 
I find it interesting that you guys call a barrel "cover" as apposed to concealment. I also find it interesting that you train to shoot over your cover/concealment. I was trained never to shoot over top of the cover/concealment, but rather to always shoot around it. The reasoning for it was that by shooting over it, you are exposing your head and giving the bad guy a target to shoot at. By shooting around the cover/concealment you expose a minimal part of your body and its always "gun first" when looking around the corner.
My original instructor demonstrated this by using an orange gun... he had us all line up infront of our targets and he stood behind the barrel. He asked us to tell him when we thought we had enough of a target to fire on him. Before we had anything worth shooting at, he told us how much of our body he could see. He, in most cases, had a diaginal line from our farthest shoulder downward through our center mass ( like right shoulder to left foot).
And as far as kneeling, strong hand+strong knee down. Knee sticking out fromthe side of the barrel would warrant a kick in the leg to let us know we could be shot in the leg.
 
IDPA isn't training it's a game. While it's origins go back to US shooters with concealed carry permits it is simply a game as we play it now.

Well your points are very valid on a two-range they aren't really relevant to what we do within the context of the game. We simply play the game as laid out by IDPA HQ.

John
 
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