wow guys I never thought there'd be so many replies! I deeply appreciate all your suggestions.
- rem 783, sounds like I need to find one in local store and hold it in my hand to tell if I like the weight.
- ruger american ranch/hog hunter, sounds like they will fit my bill if I want to go low cost. Hog hunter does have a 308 16.5" barrel, it's not listed on their website for some reason.
- savage 10/110, I'm not ready to chop the barrel.
- CZ ranger, Kimber, Tikka - out of my league in term of price.
- Remington model 7, this is a nice rifle definitely on my list. Hard to find one on EE though.
- Ruger/Savage/Mossberg scout rifle, I really like the look of these rifles too, but for some reason the listed weight all comes in at around 8 lb. Guess I'll need to hold one in hand to tell.
- Russian TOZ 308, I always love unconventional suggestions and Russian rifles. However for this purpose I think I want to stick to "plain and common" bolt guns. I have a Browning BLR in 308 originally bought to fill this role, but I decided lever action is too finicky in the field.
Why do I feel under-gunned with 7.62x39? Last year I went face to face with a black bear about 5 yards away, on the ground, no back up. The bear did go down instantly with a shot through the ear, but I kept thinking what if my shot missed by inches and hit the skull? On the same hunt my buddy met another bear in a total surprise, took a snapshot, 30+ yards. That 180gr 308 went in from the sirloin area, penetrated the entire bear lengthwise, and torn several holes in the chest where bits of lead came out. Both lungs and heart had shrapnel in them. Needless to say I was impressed with the performance of 308.
- rem 783, sounds like I need to find one in local store and hold it in my hand to tell if I like the weight.
- ruger american ranch/hog hunter, sounds like they will fit my bill if I want to go low cost. Hog hunter does have a 308 16.5" barrel, it's not listed on their website for some reason.
- savage 10/110, I'm not ready to chop the barrel.
- CZ ranger, Kimber, Tikka - out of my league in term of price.
- Remington model 7, this is a nice rifle definitely on my list. Hard to find one on EE though.
- Ruger/Savage/Mossberg scout rifle, I really like the look of these rifles too, but for some reason the listed weight all comes in at around 8 lb. Guess I'll need to hold one in hand to tell.
- Russian TOZ 308, I always love unconventional suggestions and Russian rifles. However for this purpose I think I want to stick to "plain and common" bolt guns. I have a Browning BLR in 308 originally bought to fill this role, but I decided lever action is too finicky in the field.
Why do I feel under-gunned with 7.62x39? Last year I went face to face with a black bear about 5 yards away, on the ground, no back up. The bear did go down instantly with a shot through the ear, but I kept thinking what if my shot missed by inches and hit the skull? On the same hunt my buddy met another bear in a total surprise, took a snapshot, 30+ yards. That 180gr 308 went in from the sirloin area, penetrated the entire bear lengthwise, and torn several holes in the chest where bits of lead came out. Both lungs and heart had shrapnel in them. Needless to say I was impressed with the performance of 308.





















































