short barreled lever rifles

[philthygeezer]

Some data:

12 Gauge
28" barrel 151.50dB
26" barrel 156.10dB
18" barrel 161.50dB

Rifle
.30-06 in 24" barrel 158.5dB
.30-06 in 18" barrel 163.2dB

http://www.freehearingtest.com/hia_gunfirenoise.shtml

1db is the smallest volume increase a person can hear.
3 dB = twice as much power, noticeably louder
6 dB = 4 times as much power, significantly louder
6 dB = twice the amplitude
9 dB = 8 times the power, nearly twice as loud
10 dB = 10 times the power, twice as loud

The intensity of the sound will go up exponentially. Your ears hear that exponential increase in pressure as a linear increase in volume. A 12 ga hits your ears 10 times as hard when you cut the barrel from 28 to 18". A .30-06 hits your ears about 4 times as hard when you go from 24" to 18".

Long barrels are a very good thing. They maximize velocity and minimize sound pressure levels.

 

[Throttle_monkey1]

What!!??

 

[mmattockx]

What!!??

Exactly.



Mark

 

[hopjams]

Sorry about the poor picture. I need to take it out in the daylight and use a better camera. But you get the idea, a potent bear stopper 45/70 in a very nice little package. I love short guns and could not resist. Jim

 

[Kodiak Outpost]

12" barrel on these:

Before anybody asks, no, we do not have any to purchase and we are not expecting more in the near future.

 

[abolt]

Sorry about the poor picture. I need to take it out in the daylight and use a better camera. But you get the idea, a potent bear stopper 45/70 in a very nice little package. I love short guns and could not resist. Jim

Sorry for the hijack. but where did you get those stocks?

 

[hopjams]

The laminated stocks came on that particular model. It's a Marlin model 1895 SDT a run of 500 made for the Davidsons company. Jim

 

[tactical lever]

If you don't mind a bit of paperwork, time, and a bit more money you can import something from the states. They have made several intresting limited runs for companys like Davidsons. About a year ago I imported two Marlin model 1895 SDT 45/70 rifles with the factory 16 1/4" trapper length barrels and laminate stocks and upgraded sights. I have a 1894p in 44mag but prefer the extra thump of 45/70 for bear country. And what the heck new toys are always a good thing. Jim

Yours is very cool. I have the straight grip guide gun in stainless as well. The semi-pistol grip would have probably made more sense for me, but esthetically, the straight grip does it for me.

The 2 1/4 inches looks a lot shorter than I thought it would. I love mine in it's present configuration, but I do want a super shorty in a smaller round.

 

[tactical lever]

Some data:

12 Gauge
28" barrel 151.50dB
26" barrel 156.10dB
18" barrel 161.50dB

Rifle
.30-06 in 24" barrel 158.5dB
.30-06 in 18" barrel 163.2dB

http://www.freehearingtest.com/hia_gunfirenoise.shtml

1db is the smallest volume increase a person can hear.
3 dB = twice as much power, noticeably louder
6 dB = 4 times as much power, significantly louder
6 dB = twice the amplitude
9 dB = 8 times the power, nearly twice as loud
10 dB = 10 times the power, twice as loud

The intensity of the sound will go up exponentially. Your ears hear that exponential increase in pressure as a linear increase in volume. A 12 ga hits your ears 10 times as hard when you cut the barrel from 28 to 18". A .30-06 hits your ears about 4 times as hard when you go from 24" to 18".

Long barrels are a very good thing. They maximize velocity and minimize sound pressure levels.

I agree about long barrels, but ya like what ya like, and I like variety. Wanted a Shiloh Sharps since I was 10, but I like these too, and now military etc.

Don't imagine I would be doing a lot of shooting without plugs, just like I don't with a pistol. Any idea where the mic. is in relation to the muzzle? What about smaller pistol calibers for loudness? Better or worse than out of a revolver?

 

[tactical lever]

12" barrel on these:

Before anybody asks, no, we do not have any to purchase and we are not expecting more in the near future.

What about far future; any forecasts? What about price and accessories, like a full length butt stock and sights? Would receiver sights for a winchester be compatable?

 

[troutseeker]

Here is my .45/70, short enough to carry easily and pretty powerful...

I find it very pleasing ot look at and reassuring to hold onto...

 

[Hungry]

I love those short lever guns.... Bring 'em on! This is bordering on ####...

Cheers,
Barney

 

[Canadian Sig]

MR ruck?

 

[KMD]

My Puma M92 .454

 

[Longwalker]

Basically, I am wondering about the ability / cost of making a 20 inch Win or Marlin a bit lighter and shorter. Seems like the easiest ( if you can get them ) is too buy a 'factory' 16 inch barrel ( and tube mag )

You can't "swap" barrels for a lever action like you can for a shotgun. Rifle barrels are screwed in very firmly, (require a barrel wrench and receiver vise ) and must be fitted for headspace, and the magazine would need to be removed and re-attached. Much different than a one - screw thirty second swap that can be accomplished with a shotgun. WAY more expensive than just having the barrel cut and crowned. Or sell your present rifle and buy a shorter one.