Short bullets in 30/06

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I have a box of Hornady 110gr SP.
These aren't going to be anywhere near the lands I don't think, and I'm just wondering how far the bullet needs to be seated. I have read .250" and thought I could get some verification on that.
 
you should try them. It is amazing what you can do. I had some 100gr in 7mm rem mag, played with loads and and got some cloverleafs at 150 yds. As you choose.
 
Seat your bullets at least caliber depth seated in the neck.ie, in .3006 seat it so at least .308 of the bullet is seated in the neck.I had luck with 125 gr sierra and rem soft points and IMR 4064 in 3006
 
Seat your bullets at least caliber depth seated in the neck.ie, in .3006 seat it so at least .308 of the bullet is seated in the neck.I had luck with 125 gr sierra and rem soft points and IMR 4064 in 3006

+1. The rule of thumb is to have at least one full calibre of length engaged in the neck of the case. 4064 is a great powder for lighter bullets in the 30-06.


Mark
 
Rules of thumb are just that. Start with seating one calber depth, and then try a wee bit longer, another wee bit longer, yadda, yadda. The problem with minimal seating is that the cartridge can get out of round easily. You may need to single load to prevent this. In extreme cases, if you could get the bullet to touch the leade, and then unloaded, you might pull the bullet.

For range work, no big deal. For the field, you want your cartridge robust enough you don't need to baby it into and out of the gun.
 
My .22-250 Rem would seat to the lands with a 60 grain Sierra HP. When single loading I was comfortable to .16". It now seats to the lands and grips about .10". Almost time to visit Jerry and Dennis but it will still shoot the remaining Imperial 55 grain HP's under an inch at 200 m and those factory rounds are over 20 years old. They are going to be some distance off the lands but appears to be a case of mind over matter . . .
 
About five years ago, I gave a 30-06 rifle to a fellow who was not a hunter or a shooter. His FIL and myself are good friends, and have hunted together many times.

We started the guy out with 110 gr Speers ahead of 40 gr of 4895. The load was accurate, with mild recoil and enough noise to let him know he was shooiting "a real gun." :)

Two years later he killed his first big game, a 55" moose, using 180 gr Hornadys ahead of 55 gr of 4350. He is now a full-fledged GN, and has bought other firearms.

Your 'short' bullets would be perfect for introducing someone to shooting.

Ted
 
Thanks very much.
I have a bit of IMR4895, and some SR4759 I'd like to try for some reduced loads.

I was running 110 gr Vmax in my .30-06 last year, over IMR 4895. They were running 3500fps. I think the jump was like 0.150" to the lands, but still shot moa out to 300yds. 1:11 twist.
 
I wonder if the rifling has enough twist for such a light bullet. You'd need at least 1 in 17".

You have that backwards, 1:17" is a much slower twist than the typical 30-06 will have, not faster. 30-06 is usually a 1:10" or 1:12" from what I have seen and will over-stabilize the light bullets, not under-stabilize them.


Mark
 
I have a box of Hornady 110gr SP.
These aren't going to be anywhere near the lands I don't think, and I'm just wondering how far the bullet needs to be seated. I have read .250" and thought I could get some verification on that.

Check to see what the Hornady reloading manual says. Sometimes a crimp may be helpful.
 
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