shot gun for bear defence

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Fabarm Martial Proforces 14"

I have both, and yes the Fabarm is worth twice as much, although both are good guns.
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i am pretty sure i seen one of those at gunco for about $475 about 2 months ago damn if i had have thought to verify brand i would have bought it and made some $ on here with it LOL
 
Any shotgun will kill them if they are close enough and you hit them in a vulnerable area! What difference does it make what model, make, gauge..heck, I shot one with #5 birdshot at 15 yards once with a Remington 870 20 gauge..one shot..just buy one that works and gives you 3 shots!
 
Well last night I had the pleasure of wading through the willows looking for a couple of big blackies that did a home invasion and consequently scared the bejeezus out of the people in the house. My 870 felt none too big in my hands. Wouldn't have felt bad about stopping at home for a Guide Gun, if'n I had one.
 
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I just got a 590 with ghost sights on it. I am thinking of having it shortened to 18.5" and a recoil reducing stock. Got some helpful hints from another member of this board who lives in serious griz country, he was being kind about my shotgunning ability. I find that I am recoil sensitive and need to find ways to reduce the effect of firing slugs.
 
Colin said:
I just got a 590 with ghost sights on it. I am thinking of having it shortened to 18.5" and a recoil reducing stock. Got some helpful hints from another member of this board who lives in serious griz country, he was being kind about my shotgunning ability. I find that I am recoil sensitive and need to find ways to reduce the effect of firing slugs.
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Try 2 3/4" slugs...
 
My current load is 2 ¾” 3”x3 and 2 ¾”

Based on discussions I have had with people, I have concerns about going reduced recoil slugs as they may not offer enough penetration on the larger bears.

I figure the first shot is the longest, with the next three being the killers and the last would be up close and personal.
 
you could also add a better bad, like a sims limbsaver or even some mercury inserts in the stock.
 
I've been hiking in the rockies for years and something lighter than a shotgun is preferable. When I'm not walking (heli-hiking, quading, horseback) the girlfriend feels more comfortable with the big, black, Bear-ly(sorry) legal Winchester Defender 18" 8-round. The loadout is all 3"; 00, slug, 00, slug, 00, slug... you get the idea. I don't know if 3" is required for bear but I would want to find out otherwise the hard ways. Pump over semi auto for reliability. A straight stock is easier to pack but the pistol grip is easier to carry and handle in an emergency situation. In retrospect I think I should have went with a side swinging butt stock instead of the over the top for ease of use but I wanted the extra ammo onboard and as I recall there was a conflict between these two toys.

What I really have found important is lighting. Alot of the problems I've had with wildlife in general have been at night. I won't shoot unless I know what I'm aiming at and what's behind. When you're half asleep in a sleeping bag and groping for the goods its nice to count on a light being attached.

My unit has given me many a good night sleep in the woods.
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Colin said:
I figure the first shot is the longest, with the next three being the killers and the last would be up close and personal.
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If you really have to shoot a bear in self defense, you will not get that many shots off. One, maybe two is all.
The FIRST one will be up close and personal.
Otherwise, you'll have some 'splaining to do to the CO.;)
 
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popcan said:
If you really have to shoot a bear in self defense, you will not get that many shots off. One, maybe two is all.
The FIRST one will be up close and personal.
Otherwise, you'll have some 'splaining to do to the CO.;)
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From reading all the bear attacks accounts, it really depends, some people had lots of time to prepare, other had none. It has to with luck and the bear.

first rule with bears: "bears don't follow rules" :eek:
 
The thing with scary bear situations is that nothing is certain, I always hate getting into those situations.
Of the people I know personally that have been 'attacked' (where the bear made physical contact to some degree and damage ranging from minor to extreme) the distances have varied from a few meters to about 20m. The most common comment from all of them is that there was very little time to react.
One drill that should be practiced is the fast and accurate first shot. Many people take forever to get on target and that first shot off, we run drills to get that time from a buzzer down to a second or less at 9m. Like popcan says you may only get one shot so it better be a good one.

Funny thing is that the 'experts' say that you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than attacked by a bear. I don't personally know anybody who has been struck by lightening BUT I do know 6 people who have been attacked by bears....hmm I never was good at stats.
Cheers
 
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