Was thinking to try developing a load using shot for my TT33 and am interested in any opinions you guys might have concerning this. Is this a crazy potentially dangerous idea due to the cartridge using a bottle necked case?
Shot load in Tok
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i've made some shot loads for my glock 17 using tok brass after firing forming the brass to the chamber with a 30 cal bullet. for some reason i wasted some hornady 150gr jacketed ones to do it.
once i had the brass resized and formed (with a 9mm die) i filled them with 5gr of tightgroup and used 2 shot cards to compress the powder and act somewhat like a wad. i filled the rest with #9 shot and capped it with another shot card i believe. obviously it was only a single shot affair but it seemed to work decent enough.
once i had the brass resized and formed (with a 9mm die) i filled them with 5gr of tightgroup and used 2 shot cards to compress the powder and act somewhat like a wad. i filled the rest with #9 shot and capped it with another shot card i believe. obviously it was only a single shot affair but it seemed to work decent enough.
This isn't 1950's Ontario. You have to use an air powered handgun now. snicker.
All handgun shot cartridges out of any handgun are useless. The rifling causes huge holes in the pattern due to the spiral the shot string will fly in. However, you still load for the weight of the projectile. The issue will be keeping shot together. Shot capsules don't come in .312" diameter. You might be able to make something though. Likely be a single shot only too.
All handgun shot cartridges out of any handgun are useless. The rifling causes huge holes in the pattern due to the spiral the shot string will fly in. However, you still load for the weight of the projectile. The issue will be keeping shot together. Shot capsules don't come in .312" diameter. You might be able to make something though. Likely be a single shot only too.
The shot load worked nicely at about 10m. After that patterned opened right up of course. Was really surprised how loud they were and seemed even louder than my regular load. For the next ones I'm thinking to lower the powder charge therefore increasing shot volume and reducing velocity which should help increase the amount of shot on target. Fun times at the reloading bench.
I have made and used shotshell ammo in 38/357 and 44 using the Speer plastic cups. You need the cup to get the shot column longer by extending it well past the case mouth.
My experience with shot density on target is different than Sunray's. I started low and worked the load up, shooting patterns at 5 yards. The pattern was good up to a point and then went to hell.
So, work up and find the limit before the pattern blows apart. With my 38/357 and 44 good loads, the pellets had enough power to blow through both sides of an empty 48 ounce steel juice can.
My only "live" use of this ammo was one shot on a feral cat. It never came back....
I don't see how you could get enough shot into a 30 cal Tok to be useful. And if you drop the shot charge below the shoulder, you will have problem seating a card wad. The small amount of fast powder you would use would make more room for shot, but there would be an obstruction issue getting through the constricted shoulder.
A 9mm Tok would be better. Try a 38 shot cup in it.
My experience with shot density on target is different than Sunray's. I started low and worked the load up, shooting patterns at 5 yards. The pattern was good up to a point and then went to hell.
So, work up and find the limit before the pattern blows apart. With my 38/357 and 44 good loads, the pellets had enough power to blow through both sides of an empty 48 ounce steel juice can.
My only "live" use of this ammo was one shot on a feral cat. It never came back....
I don't see how you could get enough shot into a 30 cal Tok to be useful. And if you drop the shot charge below the shoulder, you will have problem seating a card wad. The small amount of fast powder you would use would make more room for shot, but there would be an obstruction issue getting through the constricted shoulder.
A 9mm Tok would be better. Try a 38 shot cup in it.
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Had thought about the constriction issue due to the bottle necked case and wondered if this may be dangerous. Can't really justify buying a pistol for the reason of shooting shot loads but could just say I love the platform and was planning to eventually have all the TT type pistols eventually.
