shot placement

Thanks for the replies. I will most likely being using 405gr hardcast bullets in my 4570 my buddy uses 500gr cast. I usually always try for a lung shot but there are times I take the shoulder shot on whitetails with my 50cal black powder and they drop on the spot. Not much meat wasted.
I hunt bears in the fall in very thick bush. Late season bears carry a lot of fat and if no exit hole occurs or the hole is small the fat can cause the wound to not bleed. One area I hunt has a very deep high angled ravine right behind. If a bear made it down there getting it back would be a nightmare as I can't get my atv back there. I'd rather loose a couple lbs of meat then let my bear stay over night where wolves and other bears can eat it or have it ruined by warmer temps. There are times when anchoring an animal is acceptable. I've seen a small 150-180lbs bear run 100 yards after taking a 180gr nosler from a 300wm to both lungs and heart with a fist sized exit hole. They don't always go down on the spot like the internet says I've always stayed away from the shoulder as I use mostly a 12ga with slugs or 2506.
This years hunt ill be bringing my 4570 double and my 2506 for any possible long shot (150 yards over a meadow).
 
Dead center of mass directly behind shoulder. A little too far forward gets the shoulder, a little too far back liver. It's the safest shot out there IMO and you potentailly ruin the least amount of meat. The only animal I could see aiming intentionally for the shoulder on is a mountain goat, in order to anchor them right there(ideally) to prevent them cartwheeling down the mountain.[/QUOTE]

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Would also include bear hit on the point of the shoulder so the bullet and secondary projectiles angle back through the lungs.

Short of supplying a picture with "X" & "Y" marked and running a poll you are possibly both wrong. So rather than wasting time when you should be working . . . ask the boss to settle the debate.
 
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