SHOT SHOW 2013: Intrepid RAS-12 AR-12 tactical shotgun

Hmm. Would something like this possibly work as a conversion for an XCR or ACR?

Cool new shotgun idea. If they produced a standalone shotgun I would be very tempted to buy it.
 
lonesalamander said:
That looks way too cool. Most interesting thing from SHOT 2013 so far!

I wonder how powerful the ammunition is in comparison to 12ga?
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The video posted above mentions that it operates at the same pressure as regular 12 gauge, so basically no.

It's kind of too bad, I know they wanted to operate within the mechanical constraints of the AR-10 platform, and to use as many existing components as possible, but IMO the shotshell needs a velocity upgrade as much as it needed to be modified to be box magazine feed friendly, for it to remain viable as a dedicated fighting system.

Anyways, I wonder how these shells would do in a double format?
 
It will all come down to the cost and availability of their new ammo.

If they're smart, they will sell the ammo at a loss for the first little while.

After everyone already has these guns, then they can let the ammo price creep up slowly.
 
a_sock said:
I wonder if we showed this to a certain group, next to the mka akdal 1919, if they would understand the difference between a variant-having compatible parts, and something having the same general look, with no major compatibility.
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When that certain group's political motivation is to restrict and inhibit firearm ownership in this country as much as possible whether are not if is technically a variant is completely irrelevant.
 
tootall said:
hey, look what I found!
http://vimeo.com/57086380
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That was pretty awesome.

Historically and realistically, any significant evolution in firearms technology must be lead by advances in cartridge technology. Not that this is a huge advancement but it is something.

And yes I want one too, but not just for the range. I want a semi-atuo mag fed shotgun that's not restricted, just like everyone else.
 
jeffcarr88 said:
Awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...too bad the "AR" platform is restricted tho :(
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Therein lies the question........it is a variation of the AR 10 which (as far as the original AR 10 ) is a predecessor of the AR 15 design . Canstar used this argument when producing a .50 semi . It was based on the Barrett 82 which was a predecessor of the 82A1 which was named prohibited in the legislation . Anybody got money to make this point in court ?
 
red_leader said:
I think this would be neat to add to the collection but a bit pricey for me. And I beg to wonder what the rounds will cost....
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I asked the manufacturer if the rounds were reloadable. He said that while they were not advertising them as such, they could be reloaded and that components would be available eventually.
 
I still think, outside of 3-gun and the like, its not worth going to a new shotgun shell format unless it were capable of generating enough velocity to cause rifle-like permanent cavitation and defeat pistol armor with buckshot.

Of course at that point you'd have to design a new gun around the resulting cartridge, and unless you kept it under .50 you'd probably be flirting with Destructive Device status in the U.S.
 
I sent an email to Intrepid, letting them know of this thread.



Hello,

I saw your AR-12 at SHOT and posted this report on a web forum in Canada.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...W-2013-Intrepid-RAS-12-AR-12-tactical-shotgun

As it uses an AR10 lower, it would be classed as RESTRICTED in Canada, thus limiting its use to an approved gun range. As it cannot be taken out in the bush, it would not be much use for hunting.

Do you have any plans for a stand-alone design, not based on the AR platform?
This could be an all-new semi, or a pump operation.

I enjoyed seeing your new gun, and I hope it does well!

Cheers,

Dean

BTW, Is it possible to get a cartridge for my collection?



Dean,
Thank you for your interest in the Intrepid RAS-12 .
We currently have no plans on to develop this weapon system on a platform other than an AR platform. With that being said we had a ton of excitement on our development of the RAS-12 ammunition.
Dean as we get production rolling, I would love to get you a cartridge for your collection.
Keep in touch,


SHANE JOHNSON
Director of Business Development

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Hi Shane,

Thanks for the reply and info.
Yes, I think that a rimless 12 gauge round is bound to generate a lot of interest!
I wouldn't be surprised to see the round being adopted by other gunmakers, due to the box magazine advantages.
Best wishes on your design! And thanks in advance for the offer of a cartridge for the collection.

Cheers,

Dean
 
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