SHOT SHOW 2013 ZiP gun, from US Firearms

The more I look at them the more I want one... It would be also nice to have a rifle version... Question, if they sold some of them about a short barrelled rifle ... And in Canada you mounted it on a rail "perminantly" on a non rest gun could that count to OAL and allow the creation of a combo gun... If this is possible I would be interested at a much higher price

No. What you're saying doesn't make sense at all. You're talking about (2) distinct firearms here. How would adding a separate firearm to anonther firearm's accessory rail change the classification of either firearm?
 
No. What you're saying doesn't make sense at all. You're talking about (2) distinct firearms here. How would adding a separate firearm to anonther firearm's accessory rail change the classification of either firearm?

It does sometimes. For example: mounting a restricted length shotgun to a non-restricted rifle would make the entire package non-restricted. However this is a pistol and will always be restricted even if the OAL is 26 inches.
 
It does sometimes. For example: mounting a restricted length shotgun to a non-restricted rifle would make the entire package non-restricted. However this is a pistol and will always be restricted even if the OAL is 26 inches.

You've lost me here. On what basis are you making this claim? I can't see how this could be interpreted this way. Have a RCMP forensics ruling to back it up?
 
You've lost me here. On what basis are you making this claim? I can't see how this could be interpreted this way. Have a RCMP forensics ruling to back it up?

Ok, if you had an 8 inch norinco shotgun with a pistol grip it would be resticted (too short).... attach a buttstock and the OAL becomes +26 inches. Take the same 8 inch shotgun and attach it to a rifle and the OAL becomes +26 inches (think of the rifle as a buttstock). The reason it doesn't work with this pistol is because it is a pistol and therefore restricted regardless of barrel or over all length. Eg. the Rossi Circuit Judge.
 
Ok, if you had an 8 inch norinco shotgun with a pistol grip it would be resticted (too short).... attach a buttstock and the OAL becomes +26 inches. Take the same 8 inch shotgun and attach it to a rifle and the OAL becomes +26 inches (think of the rifle as a buttstock). The reason it doesn't work with this pistol is because it is a pistol and therefore restricted regardless of barrel or over all length. Eg. the Rossi Circuit Judge.

With little changes they could make a SBR version.. Like the charger vs the 10/22 .. It would be cool to even mount it on a restricted rifle .. But more practical and useful if it could be mounted onto a nr rifle .. I believe to pull off this classification it would have to be perminantly mounted or at least difficult to get off.

Isn't there a few examples of rifles and pistols using the same action and the rifles being non res.

Like the charger or the buckmark.. Ad those are 2 off the top of my head so I'm sure there are more...

In any event someone bring these in.. Sell them for 250 and ill buy them
 
RIP..............USFA.

At least I have my "Gunslinger" with "US" markings and a single piece walnut grip. A beautiful gun. I was also smart enough to buy spare parts at the time (2006). I believe that mine was made "under the Blue Dome", before they moved their new equipment to another building.

You won't see ZIP up here in Canada for that toy. No loss, except for the SAA.

Cheers,

Bill
 
Sorry Gents.

To put it in another way, it's sad that USFA have moved away from the SAA pistols which were of high quality. I've seen on YouTube the less than flattering results of the ZIP in action. Misfeeds galore. I also can't see a financially-troubled company expanding such a product into Canada. My use of the word ZIP had to do with the chances of Canadians having this gun for sale up here. You might try to purchase the ZIP directly from USFA, but will time be of the essence, and would they sell directly to a customer?

The ZIP reminds me of when my dad bought the Lada car, when it first arrived in Canada from the Soviet Union. He regretted buying that piece of junk.

Cheers,

Bill
 
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