Today shot some 100 gr. Nosler Partitions from 25:06 Into damp sand filled 5 gallon plastic pails.3300 fps (book) Two recovered bullets weighed 63 grs. And 70 grs. One mushroomed to .68 other to .51. Neither bullet exited, both found near the far side of pail. Also shot some Berger 115 VLDs at same pails, no trace of bullet found, no exit. We spent 20 minutes screening sand....zero...zip...found. We got a very nice .6" group with Bergers from a Kimber 84L. 25.06 With a Leupold VXIII 4 1/2 X 14
Shot some 100 gr. Nosler Partitions into pail of damp sand from 25:06
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nowarningshot
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When did season on sand filled pails open? You guys seem to be doing well so far, congrats!!
LOL. Season is only opened on pails with metal handles. Pails without handles or lids are not open.
The thing i find interesting about this little experiment is how it supports the "old school" go to projectile...partition. The Bergers are often talked about as having bullet blow up at close range/high velocity, especially if major bone is hit. A wide shallow splat of a wound. Effectively a target bullet, like the Amax, that comes into its own at lower velocity/long range when conventional and bonded bullets would not mushroom.
I have never used Bergers, but have used Amax with good results. My go too projectile for hunting, remains the partition.
Bergers suck as a hunting round for normal hunting distances. They don't hold up when they hit fast. Long Range maybe but I'm not a long range hunter
Partitions are great however they are getting pricey for practice
Partitions are great however they are getting pricey for practice
I have been using Nosler Partitions for much of my hunting for over 45 years now.
There are many good "hunting" bullets available today, but nothing that improves a lot on the venerable Partition.
The Berger VLD is NOT a hunting bullet, IMHO, and I stand by that, since 90% of all game is shot inside 200 yards, where those VLD's are "bombs."
For those who want to hunt "lead-free", we have several possibilities, as well. Again, they have more limitations than do the Partitions.
I have now shot well over 100 head of big game with Partitions, [.243 through to .338] They are my standard, by which I judge all other hunting bullets.
For targets, the Bergers do shine. I have a Heavy 6mm Remington, built by Leeper, that shoots the 105 VLD into very small groups, right out past 800M.
Regards, Dave.
There are many good "hunting" bullets available today, but nothing that improves a lot on the venerable Partition.
The Berger VLD is NOT a hunting bullet, IMHO, and I stand by that, since 90% of all game is shot inside 200 yards, where those VLD's are "bombs."
For those who want to hunt "lead-free", we have several possibilities, as well. Again, they have more limitations than do the Partitions.
I have now shot well over 100 head of big game with Partitions, [.243 through to .338] They are my standard, by which I judge all other hunting bullets.
For targets, the Bergers do shine. I have a Heavy 6mm Remington, built by Leeper, that shoots the 105 VLD into very small groups, right out past 800M.
Regards, Dave.
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quite frankly no target bullet, should be used for hunting, they are not designed to expand. as your discovered they just grenade themselves.
Sorry, LD. As much as I like the TSX/TTSX, they are NOT as versatile as the Partition. I have 2 TTSX bullets here in my possession that failed to expand due to lower velocity at longer ranges. I know the Partition would have expanded considerably even at those ranges. [Both animals were recovered, but required extra shots to anchor]
In close at high velocity, the TTSX/TSX is usually quite effective. But then, so is the Partition.
While I will probably never shoot as much game with the monometal offerings as I have the Partition, I have taken enough game to see that those newer offerings are not the panacea some would suggest.
Regards, Dave.
Exactly, and had this discussion with a friend of mine earlier today. He says all you have to do is make sure you hit bone, and the Xs work fine. Right, and if I want to I can do the same using Partitions, but I hunt to eat, not anchor game.
Ted
I'm sorry Dave but my experience with this cartridge and 100gr. TSX's did not meet up to your experience. Expansion on lung shot deer to ranges of 500 yards showed great terminal performance.
Perhaps you could explain further these fail to expand scenarios, a bit further, such as the cartridge, range, loading, and impact velocity.
All the deer I poked through the lungs with my 25'06 and 100gr. TSX's exhibited reliable expansion, clear out to 500 yards.
As for meat hunting, a lot of those deer were antlerless, and our family ate wild game as a staple in those years, you could pretty much eat to within an inch or less of the bullet hole on either side of the deer, but who really cares for rib meat that much anyways.
