Shot the Norinco M-14 today: Questions:

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I shot the Norinco today and it fed and extracted perfectly. But the point of impact is about 6 inches to the right at 100 yards. The rear sight windage knob is frozen and I can't adjust the sight.

I'm a little surprised that the windage is out by so much. Does it sound like the barrel indexing is off?

I can hardly wait for Hungry's clinic.
 
We can't determine anything about barrel indexing from this description. Does the front sight appear to be straight up when the gun is level? Does the op rod line up properly with the rod coming out of the gas system?

As for correcting the sight problem, you need to free up the windage knob. On the right hand side of the sight knobs, you will see a slotted nut. Turn it counter-clockwise to back it off. It falls into detents at 180 degree intervals. Backing it off, lessens the tightness of the windage and elevation knobs. How tight is the elevation adjustment?

You should be able to find instructions on the net for completely dissassembling it. Not a bad idea to take it apart fully, inspect it and clean and grease it.

If the rear sight is centred, and the gun is shooting to the right, move the front sight to the right until it shoots correctly. Perhaps the front sight is too far to the left.
 
How does one move the front sight? Is there a special tool required?

The elevation knob is like baby bear's porridge--it is just right.
 
Is your front sight at mechanical zero, meaning sitting in the middle of the sight base, and not appearing to lean left or right quite a bit?

If it sits in the middle,.. loosen you locking screw and drift your front sight to the right(opposite the direction you want your POI to move) a little to start, tighten up a check poi again with a couple rounds. It's better to get your intial zero with the front sight and leave the rear sitting in the middle.

If your front sight is already hard to the right or even hanging slightly off the front sight base, when viewed from the rear, you have I think, three options.

1. Get your rear sight operational and move it to the left 6 clicks to start, and live with the slight misalignment while obtaining a 100yd zero.

2. Remove your flash hider if sight appears to lean when viewed from rear, and see if the front sight base is cut properly so the sight base itself is true(perpendicular) down through top spline that engages the barrel slots. You will have to loosen the locking allen head screw first and use castlenut pliers to loosen the castlenut holding the flash hider to the barrel. Sometimes the older norks,( some 2009 and earlier) have the F/H plug welded to the barrel on it's underside, and this will add a bit more difficulty in it's removal. There is references to it in the above stickies, and I have seen YouTube vid's done by canadian M-14 owners showing how to remove a welded F/H.

3. If the F/H is cut correctly(mine isn't), and you want to use irons, a barrel re indexing may be in your future. If the Flash Hider looks really poorly cut in relation between the sight base and the corresponding splines, a used USGI flash hider may solve you problem. I have one in the mail as I type to try and correct my front sight issue.

Read all the stickies, and if you are set up to attend a Hungry clinic, all will be explained and if possible, made right for you there.:cheers:

PS this post seems to duplicate some of whats typed previously, I took to long to type it as there was no replys when I looked.
 
The one I just got has the front sight as far off to one side as it can be without hanging off the sight of the dovetail. But then the sight blade does lean to the left...
 
Six inches at 100 yards is not a lot. If the front sight is near centre, a small adjustment will bring the gun to where it needs to be. If the front sight is already most of the way to the right, then probably the barrel is badly indexed and someone tried to "fix" it by drifting the sight.

By all means free up your rear sight, but that is for wind drift when shooting, not for sighting in.
 
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