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did some searches and couldnt come up with anything so ...

I bought a new big backpack ( british - big - green - lots of stuff with removable side bags that zip together to make small backpack ) for this comming season of running amok in the bush chasing wood nymphs.
i carry a fabarm martial pro 14" 12 ga.
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Normally i carry the shotty african carry with the barrel pointed down to the ground on my left shoulder ( seems the fastest draw since im right handed ) but with the pack its hard to fit the shotty on in my test fits in my house. you guys got any ideas or solutions. i tried a couple of short slings hanging down from the pack in front ( mil. spec idea ) but i may scare a few granola hikers looking like a psycho so maybe i could make a side saddle for gun on side of pack ? or i saw these on a website that look cool http://www.gunslingercorral.com/productsmain.asp
have alook around the site there are some cool examples

thanks in advance guys
 
I've tried a number of ways to sling a rifle or shotgun when carrying a pack. Hanging the gun on one side of the pack I found leaves the weight lopsided unless you have an axe or something to off set the weight on the opposite side. A scabbard on the center line of the pack works, but it is not very accessible, besides, a scabbard might be an issue with your pistil grip.

I think the best solution is to rest the gun across the top of the pack, in the space above the straps and the pack, with the sling over your head and under your chin. I would also consider a third sling swivel placed in the conventional position on the butt, which would allow you to switch back and forth. The sling mounted to the pistol grip might cause the gun to constantly slide to one side of the pack. Packing in this fashion might require that you carry the gun in your hands in the thick stuff, but I think you will find it suitable most of the time, especially considering the short length of your gun.
 
I use a three point tactical sling to carry my shotty in the bush. I loosen up the sling and the gun hangs on my right side, along the ribs and hip, almost down to my knee.

To keep it in place I've sown a couple of four inch straps to the side of my clothes. They have velcro on the inside and I wrap that around the body of the shotgun. It' not very wide velcro so it allows for an easy pull away but it's strong enough to keep it from coming undone on its own.

The shotgun stays tucked to my body while I walk but can be pulled loose very fast and the slings allows imediate shouldering and firing.

Think of it as being put in a makes shift holster but slung to your body in the same time.
 
There are quite a few guys on the board running Blue Force Gear slings on the Fabarm.

Xman

With your three point sling, run it over your stong shoulder and under your weak armpit. So the end of the sling that attaches to the butt should go over your right shoulder and the end that attaches to the forearm should go under your left arm.

Try this out, you should find that the firearm stay in a better position for you.
 
Boomer great idea for ontop of the pack. i tried the side of the pack and pratice loaded the pack with heavy stuff on the other side but it was still lopsided and made the pack bottom heavy. i can carry it up top for regular hiking and sling like xman or ADK's link kinda idea. But like Farmboy stated which is a good idea, if you look at the pic of the gun the strap goes to the pistol grip leaving it either lop sided or with the butt in my face. I will try these ideas and maybe do like you said and try the strap attached to the butt instead of the pistol grip.

thanks guys :D great ideas keep em comming
 
Check this out:

http://www.gunslingercorral.com/

Their 'gun holster' can be used with a back pack.

I got one of these as a demo - and they work VERY well with a standard rifle or shotgun. I'm not sure how they'd work with your pistol grip - but i'd give them a call and ask (very friendly).
 
Yeah - doesn't work on levers unfortunately but for regular stocks it's awesome. I THINK it'd be ok for pistol grips - but it'd be best to call and ask.

If you play with it - it allows a front-forward carry much like the kifaru, which i tend to prefer. The gun is tightly controled but it's in your hand in a heartbeat.

We even took one racing around on a dirt bike - held the gun perfect.
 
Yah Foxer i was lookin at those and they caught my eye. No one in Calgary carries them so i may order one.
 
I know this isn't quite right for your stock, but I emailed this guy about making changes to the design and he was very receptive. The don't make them until they are ordered so it does take a while but you get a really nice product from the looks of it.

I'm looking to carry a defensive shotgun for forestry work this summer and would like something that carries in in a barrel down position just down one shoulder.
 
lupus said:
did some searches and couldnt come up with anything so ...

I bought a new big backpack ( british - big - green - lots of stuff with removable side bags that zip together to make small backpack ) for this comming season of running amok in the bush chasing wood nymphs.
i carry a fabarm martial pro 14" 12 ga.
standard.jpg

Normally i carry the shotty african carry with the barrel pointed down to the ground on my left shoulder ( seems the fastest draw since im right handed ) but with the pack its hard to fit the shotty on in my test fits in my house. you guys got any ideas or solutions. i tried a couple of short slings hanging down from the pack in front ( mil. spec idea ) but i may scare a few granola hikers looking like a psycho so maybe i could make a side saddle for gun on side of pack ? or i saw these on a website that look cool http://www.gunslingercorral.com/productsmain.asp
have alook around the site there are some cool examples

thanks in advance guys
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What happened to the end of your knife?
 
banjopete said:
I'm looking to carry a defensive shotgun for forestry work this summer and would like something that carries in in a barrel down position just down one shoulder.
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There was a manufacturer that made custom holsters for a pistolgrip shottie out of leather, I think they were based in bc, possibly the okanagon. It had a shoulder harness, but the shotgun was hanging behind your strong arm, muzzle up behind your shoulder, and pistol grip forward. Your hand could easily grab the pistol grip and a forward tug released the shotgun with the muzzle swingin down behind you to quickly come up in front ready for action.

This seems to me to be an ideal sort of quick response setup. Leave the chamber empty and pump the action as it comes up on target.

Foxer - I need a compact lever gun solution for wilderness carry, don't want to it to be dependant on if I have a pack or not. Any suggestions?
 
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Ok geologist, let's talk. I was just starting a new thread in Foxer's forum to correct my hijack here, but hopefully folks will understand. :)

I've recently swapped my shottie bear guns for a guide gun style setup. I can't get over the accuracy my 444P gives with a simple red dot!

First question, I use that type of buttstock shellholder on other rifles and they move lots under recoil. Hooking the sling into the rear swivel through the shellholder helps keep them in place. Does this work with the big bores?

Second, I'm looking for a system that leaves my hands free in the bush when desired, and still lets the levergun come quickly into play when needed. Any suggestions?

Third, does the light mount affect balance much, and does it mar the finish on the rifle?

Thanks bud! :)
 
Ahha! I knew sooner or later someone was going to beat me to turning a lever gun tactical. :D

Also I'm not a fan of over head swings when drawing a shotgun.
A low swing/draw seems more efficient, quicker, and less likely to hang up on branches above if your in the thick crap.

Also I carry my short shotguns muzzle down as I don't like the muzzle below my head on my back, and find it works with the low draw.

Just a personal preference. :D
 
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cariboo_kid said:
Ok geologist, let's talk. I was just starting a new thread in Foxer's forum to correct my hijack here, but hopefully folks will understand. :)

I've recently swapped my shottie bear guns for a guide gun style setup. I can't get over the accuracy my 444P gives with a simple red dot!

First question, I use that type of buttstock shellholder on other rifles and they move lots under recoil. Hooking the sling into the rear swivel through the shellholder helps keep them in place. Does this work with the big bores?

Second, I'm looking for a system that leaves my hands free in the bush when desired, and still lets the levergun come quickly into play when needed. Any suggestions?

Third, does the light mount affect balance much, and does it mar the finish on the rifle?

Thanks bud! :)
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I find that my Kolpin shellholder stays put. The light mount does not alter the balance of the rifle nor has it marred the finish.

I use an X-Cellerator sling on my rifles in the field. But since I have an ATC and carry a revolver while I'm working I don't have a fast sling system for my long guns.
 
Yes, I only would carry the shottie muzzle up if the chamber is empty as described. It is also behind the shoulder, so it can't really come into line with your head.

With training, pumping a round into the chamber as you line up the shotgun doesn't take much more effort than clicking off a safety - and you always know it will fire after the pump. It is quite common to have an empty chamber requiring you to squeeze the trigger and pump the action as you bring the firearm to bear, instead of worrying about a safety and trying to remember if there is a shell in the chamber under stress.

As you stated the lower swing is much less likely to snag, and is a much more natural action, similar to drawing a pistol.

I hate crossbolt safeties (my marlin lever has one - it's in a bag in my parts kit) for the fact that they can be activated without realizing it. That sounds great if you are worried about NDs (negligent discharges), but what if you are worried about BFTCs? (Big Furry Toothy Critters)

A proper solution will negate the possibility of firing a round unexpectedly, without hearing a "click" when you need to defend a human life.
 
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