If you are only ground swatting grouse, and not wingshooting, a 20 gauge single shot is ideal, it's light to carry, and shooting high with a 20gauge puts less shot in the breast, than shooting center mass with a 410..We don't duck hunt, but we do a lot of partridge hunting. My wife really likes the 410, the first one I got here was a Mossberg 500, nice small gun, fairly short LOP. Then I found here a Canuck O/U 410 on sale, and that is her favourite gun now. She's not recoil shy, her moose gun is a Tikka Battue in 308, she could easily handle a 20 gauge, but we do a lot of walking, so the light weight 410 fits the bill.




















































