shotgun rifle inserts

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Anyone have any experience with these? I was thinking it would be an awefully handy thing to have for certain applications. I also seen you can get ones that are not only 3" like a shotshell but up to 12" so that you would actually get more reasonable ballistics and accuracy. The ones I have seen however have been in the united states.

Are these an item that can be ordered from the U.S. as it is not an action and is basically a metal sleeve. Anyways I had no idea such a thing even existed until a few weeks ago when I seen a youtube video with someone with a 12 gauge and 2 .22 inserts for plinking which I thought was rather cool especially if you wanted to just have one is something like .22 hornet (a good round if you are limited to .22 projectiles in your area and a good compromise between a .22 and something like a 22-250).

They are also fairly inexpensive with the short ones being 30 dollars and the full size ones being less than 100. which is far cheaper than a new rifle or even a barrel especially if it is something that you may only use a couple times a year if that.

Any experiences with these or input would be appreciated. Thanks
 
notsorichguy said:
Wow I guess this is why I seldom journey over to the shot guns forum.....

Personally I think this topic is more suited to shot guns than rifles. Since the OP is asking about a device made for shotguns!

Ymmv
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It's more suited to the "gimmick" Forum. Unfortunately we don't have one. So if you don't "seldom journey" to the "shot guns" (one word = Shotgun) why start now? Let's put it in perspective just for you. How accurate do you think a 223 insert in a Shotgun (correct spelling) would be?
 
Win/64 said:
It's more suited to the "gimmick" Forum. Unfortunately we don't have one. So if you don't "seldom journey" to the "shot guns" (one word = Shotgun) why start now? Let's put it in perspective just for you. How accurate do you think a 223 insert in a Shotgun (correct spelling) would be?
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More accurate than a 80 year old win 94 or 73 I would assume, again IMHO. In reality I have no idea, as this is the first I have heard of this 'device'. I can see it being a bit useful in some situations, but would I ever bother to buy one..... Probably not.

It's not like I don't know anything about shotguns (sorry the spellcheck on my phone tripped you up) but the one time I made a post here I used the term 'shotty' and got flamed to the point that I never click on the forum anymore....... I now I see I wasn't incorrect in my assumption!

Biggame hunter come on over to Hunting or one of the other rifle forums and ask your question....... You may get a more useful reply.

Cheers!
 
I've used them in .38 Special and .45 ACP. These ones were short, about the same length as a shotgun shell. Accuracy wasn't particularly good but they were fun to shoot, and I guess that's why they sell. I haven't seen them for sale in quite a while. We usually just make a light gallery load for our rifles these days. I also have two inserts that shoot .22 Calibre that were made for 30-06 and 30-30. These are old and I bought them just for the interest's sake. There has been a lot of what people thought were bright ideas at the time that are now interesting collectables.
 
notsorichguy said:
More accurate than a 80 year old win 94 or 73 I would assume, again IMHO. In reality I have no idea, as this is the first I have heard of this 'device'. I can see it being a bit useful in some situations, but would I ever bother to buy one..... Probably not.

It's not like I don't know anything about shotguns (sorry the spellcheck on my phone tripped you up) but the one time I made a post here I used the term 'shotty' and got flamed to the point that I never click on the forum anymore....... I now I see I wasn't incorrect in my assumption!

Biggame hunter come on over to Hunting or one of the other rifle forums and ask your question....... You may get a more useful reply.

Cheers!
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I think the "Spell Check" tripped you up not me.
 
shotgun inserts

I have one.....about a 6 inch insert with o-rings in 9mm cal. to fit a break action shotgun........lousy accuracy....more of a gimmick than anything...

Interesting, none-the-less.....

Any you guys that ##### about using the "wrong" forum do not have enough o do....
 
These are absolutely useless as a ethical way of shooting as there is only one bead or iron sights that ate regulated to the outer barrel and not the insert. So no the accuarcy would not be better than an 80 year old Winchester 94. As they are very accuarte for the job they are made for shooting deer within 150 yards.

A uselss gimmick.
 
I've seen 12" tubes in 4570 put in a coach gun. Buckshot in the other. At 40 yards the guy hit the stump he called. In the longer lengths they have a limited use. They can be fun despite what old whiners on the net say. If you want buy them if they don't work sell them on the EE
 
The only way a rifled insert barrel would be truly useful in a shotgun is in a combination shotgun/rifle that is already equipped with good sights. I have two well made, accurate insert barrels for the shotgun barrels of my combination guns. They are made by Krieghoff. I find them very useful!
One is a 16 ga. / 22 mag RF insert for the left barrel of my Krieghoff drilling. I can carry it in my backpack, and if the need arises, pop it in. I find the accuracy very acceptable - all shots group in about 1" at 50 yards. I have mainly used it for shooting beavers.
I have another that is currently unemployed. It is a 12 ga/ .22LR It was mounted in a Valmet combination gun, and was used to pot sitting grouse while big game hunting without making too much noise. I sold the Valmet, but liked the insert so much I did not sell it with the gun.
I'm not sure why anyone would say ALL insert barrels are a bad option, but I suppose a lack of exposure to the good ones made in Germany might explain the prejudice. One word of caution, good ones are not cheap, and cost as much s some decent complete firearms do.
 
Dont mind the attitudes displayed in the shot gun forum. Some people are absolute miserable people, and will never be happy. But hey, nitpicking over the correct spelling is always good fun for a sunday afternoon.

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My Websters tells me that shot gun is proper spelling.I have one of the inserts made by Parker Hale. It is probbably as old as I am. If I want to shoot long range I will use a rifle anyways.
 
Win/64 said:
It's more suited to the "gimmick" Forum. Unfortunately we don't have one. So if you don't "seldom journey" to the "shot guns" (one word = Shotgun) why start now? Let's put it in perspective just for you. How accurate do you think a 223 insert in a Shotgun (correct spelling) would be?
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I received an official CGN warning from JDMan for this post entitled "inappropriate behavior"
So if he could delete my original Post I promise I will be a good Boy.
 
Longwalker said:
The only way a rifled insert barrel would be truly useful in a shotgun is in a combination shotgun/rifle that is already equipped with good sights. I have two well made, accurate insert barrels for the shotgun barrels of my combination guns. They are made by Krieghoff. I find them very useful!
One is a 16 ga. / 22 mag RF insert for the left barrel of my Krieghoff drilling. I can carry it in my backpack, and if the need arises, pop it in. I find the accuracy very acceptable - all shots group in about 1" at 50 yards. I have mainly used it for shooting beavers.
I have another that is currently unemployed. It is a 12 ga/ .22LR It was mounted in a Valmet combination gun, and was used to pot sitting grouse while big game hunting without making too much noise. I sold the Valmet, but liked the insert so much I did not sell it with the gun.
I'm not sure why anyone would say ALL insert barrels are a bad option, but I suppose a lack of exposure to the good ones made in Germany might explain the prejudice. One word of caution, good ones are not cheap, and cost as much s some decent complete firearms do.
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Longwalker,

Curious here, I've seen drillings with .22 inserts in them. Do you Kentucky windage the .22 insert or do you click adjust the scope? Or is your scope spot on for the rifle barrel and the insert?
 
I've had a custom insert in 38-55 for many years, it is for for a 20 gau. SXS and 18" long. It was made by a smith that worked for Epps in Clinton. His only concern was that a shotgun firing pin was not suiteable for rifle ammo. and insisted I have a (floating) Niedner firing pin installed. It's my answer to a "cheap" combination gun. Kindly forgive any spelling errors & the possibility it might be in the wrong forum. FWIW --- John303.
 
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