Shotgun suggestion??

YukonBrett

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Looking for a new 12 gauge. Leaning towards a pump action. Hope to use for grouse, ptarmigan, waterfowl. Suggestions? Sounds like the recent 870's have gone to crap. Considering Benelli Super Nova. Any recommendations? Thanks.
 
If you are looking at the super nova you should also consider the BPS and if you like classic looks the Remington 870 Wingmaster. My personal preference is towards the Wingmaster just slightly ahead of the BPS and I would probably walk out of my LGS with either and be equally pleased. The Wingmaster is still the high quality gun it was in the 50's, 60's and 70's and it fits me just slightly better then the BPS.
Also don't spring for the camo treatments many companies offer at a premium unless you really feel its need, simple black synthetic is just as durable and blends in just as well if you keep it still, same goes for blued and wood.
No matter what if you keep the price point close to the super nova and stick to pump guns you will be getting the better offerings out there with the lowest probability of a lemon possible.
 
Brett, for grouse shorter gun is better because it allows to move tthrough brush easier, 24" barrel. Waterfowl and Ptarmigan generally a longer sighting plane would be preferred, as the shots tend to be longer 28". That would leave a 26" Benelli Nova exactly where you want to be.
 
Remington 870 WingMaster and then a Browning BPS...
Both are high end shotguns well suited for the purposes you describe.
One can be slightly confused when they read or hear 870 or Remington 870.
The 870 Express is not as highly finished as the WingMaster and when they are placed side by side anyone can see and feel the difference.
Then there is the sticker shock between the two models and again the quality between the two models is pretty self apparent imo.
Now after having blown my horn about my Preference for a High Quality shotgun , if you are not looking for a highly polished and Deeply Blued, slick action of a Very Nice Walnut Wood stocked gun then I will say this ... Do not buy the 870 WingMaster or the Browning BPS as they are not what you are looking for.
Just my Highly caffeinated opinion this morning and you can take it for what it is free advice for someone who likes and has shot an 870 WingMaster in the Marsh, Farmers Fields and fron the Duck Punt in the Big Open Waters for Brant and Geese.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
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Super Nova all the way. Never had a stoppage with mine, recoil is minimized because of the buffer system in the stock, the way the rails are designed, it almost pumps itself! It has no issues firing any different ammo, comes with 3 chokes and aren't that terribly priced if you find a sale (*cough, Cabelas right now, cough*). The only drawback is it isn't designed for small hands; I have some troubles reaching the safety, I need to move my shooting hand from the grip, which is a pain in the butt when a bird pops up out of nowhere. So I generally don't use my safety in the slough unless it's slung.
I used to have an 870 Express, but it's the cause of my personal boycott against Remington firearms. Had the gun for just over a year when it started having hard extractions on EVERY SINGLE ROUND. No matter what ammo, 2 3/4 trap to 3 inch birdshot. Short brass and long brass. Called and emailed Remington several times to inquire about their warranty and never got a response.
 
We had a friend up here that owned a BPS. The operative word, "owned."
The shotgun was a jamming nightmare and no amount of attention could change this fact.
If one must have a bottom feed/bottom eject, an older Ithaca is a safer bet.
At least if it becomes finicky there is tons of corporate knowledge to get them to work right.
Such as a weak shell stop or a rough chamber that requires some polishing.
Several changes in ownership/management sometimes left poor or worn out tooling on the factory floor IMO.
But nothing unsolveable and one is rewarded with an all steel receiver mated to a walnut stock unlike other American made shotguns.
A nice bonus is that the interrupted thread pattern barrel with the front locking lug to the magazine cap adds up to deer slug killing accuracy at normal woods ranges since 1959. Ithaca was the very first American company to offer this to feature to deer hunting shotgun owners. Other pump action shotgun companies merely copied them with less rugged and less accurate designs. These barrels require absolutely zero shimming folks and tend to hold their zero season after season. The longest manufactured pump action shotgun in the USA with a long history of recreational/hunting use as well as a great record of exemplarly police & military service in at least one world war and several lesser brush fire wars.
Win times 3.

Cheers!
 
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I got myself the Mossberg 500 Combo from Cabela's in ED two weeks ago. $329 for the shotgun (all black) and both 18.5" "defender-type" barrel and a 28" ribbed barel with a FIXED modified choke. Not bad for $329.
 
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