Shotguns plugged to 3 shells

gyates93 said:
And when a conservation officer comes along and deems that you are 'hunting'?
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if youve gota box clays and a launcher, or some shot up targets, you'll be fine.

Ive spoke to more then one officer about this. Both of them said just be obvious about your intentions. Dont where camo and target shoot from a tree stand etc. Have defined targets.
 
cantgetright;5707742 I've had to reload my deer rifle before when 5 deer came out to me but than again my deer rifle only holds 3 as well[/QUOTE said:
How many shots did you get off that time? How many of those five did you get?
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I hunted South Dakota with an unplugged browning auto 5 ( legal as long as you were not hunting migratory waterfowl) I found the following: gun was heavier, ran out of shells faster, ran out of shell funds faster, success rate on ring necks did not go up at all. I cannot see any advantage to a shotgun holding more than 3 shells other than police millitary use. The intent of the Ontario law (I feel) is to eliminate having to sort out every incident where a hunter claims to a game warden to be hunting ONLY rabbits in a marsh area or other game lands and there for does not need to have his gun plugged.

regards, Darryl
 
blasted_saber said:
if youve gota box clays and a launcher, or some shot up targets, you'll be fine.

Ive spoke to more then one officer about this. Both of them said just be obvious about your intentions. Dont where camo and target shoot from a tree stand etc. Have defined targets.
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I haven't asked about target shooting in the bush here in NL, but I know you're not allowed to take a firearm into the woods unless you have a valid hunting license or a permit issued by the department of Wildlife & Conservation. If there was a hunting season open, I'd keep the plug in the gun.

To tell the truth, I haven't even had it out down at the range.. Shooting clays you normally load one at a time anyway, and I don't shoot much else for targets with the shotgun except for patterning purposes. I suppose it would certainly make a difference in some action shooting games?
 
Covey Ridge said:
How many shots did you get off that time? How many of those five did you get?
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6 shots total, 4 deer down. Weird thing was the only one I missed was the first one(biggest of course) that I took the most time on and 2 whacks at. But it shortened the season so the rest of the gang and I could spend more time inside a bottle of Gibby's.:cheers:
 
"...why for deer hunting..." Because the MNR has decided it shall be so.
"...used to be under the impression it was only for..." Comes from the Migratory Bird Act. That'd be our legislation to comply with an international treaty between us, Mexico and the States. Used to be for migratory birds only. Never for upland birds, until the MNR changed the rules for no apparent reason.
"...migratory 3, no matter what..." Yep. Three rounds in the gun. Two in the mag and one in the chamber when hunting in Ontario.
"...good law to have challenged if the CPC gets majority..." Has nothing to do with Federal law. Out of their jurisdiction. Provincial hunting regs only.
"...find a 10 shot Garand..." Spend 50 plus grand USD on an early M1 Rifle in .276. Otherwise, you can't. You can't load one into the chamber and top up the clip either.
 
Hey musician I said "I" at the start of that statement. My intent was that the police and military would certainly have a use for more than 3 round capacity NOT that more than 3 rounds should be legal or not. Seems like the mall ninjas are getting in on this.

regards, Darryl
 
Covey Ridge said:
That's a reasonable answer. What if the deer was wounded on the 4th or 5th shot?
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What If the deer is wounded with the 1st shot an you mis with 2 and 3. Or What If its wounded with the 3rd and then you have nothing left in the tube to finish it. Floundering deer can be pretty hard to hit. There are plenty of What Ifs to go around.

The rule does not make sense, but its Ontario, the most recent push is to have blaze orange on your ground blind.
 
Kenny_G2 said:
What If the deer is wounded with the 1st shot an you mis with 2 and 3. Or What If its wounded with the 3rd and then you have nothing left in the tube to finish it. Floundering deer can be pretty hard to hit. There are plenty of What Ifs to go around.

The rule does not make sense, but its Ontario, the most recent push is to have blaze orange on your ground blind.
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Sure are plenty of what ifs. The one that I would worry about the most is 4 misses and wounding on the 5th shot.:mad: Actually I get ticked of with anyone who takes his last shot no matter what the number when the previous shots were a miss. When hunting big game the last shot should be reserved for a finish off shot and when one misses on his first shot he should seriously think before taking the second and for sure he should turn off the adrenaline when he racks in the third. It makes no sense to miss a standing shot and then attempt a running shot.
I think the rule or law does make sense.
 
If I was facing off an angry charging bear, arms shaking, sweat dripping in my eyes, (pee just about to let loose...) I think I would be more comfortable having a little more loaded in the shotgun than just 2+1...

Regarding the logic of across-the-board 2+1 hunting limitations, why only Ontario? Is Ontario any smarter than other provinces or territories?

Based on other firearms legislation, rules, interpretations, etc., I think most of us would certainly disagree with the Ontario standpoint on firearms.

UncleMax
 
Shot one 20 yards ####,shot two 40 yards ####,shot three 70 yards ####,shot four 100 yards ####,shot five 150 yards ####,shot six 200 yards ####,shot seven 250 yards ####,shot eight 300 yards ####,shot nine 350 yards #### shot ten 400 yards ####,I like three in the shot gun, effective range for most on a running deer is about that number.I believe you should learn to shoot better and you can still reload as you shoot if you need to get your 12" barrel out to 400 yards.
 
plug for semi auto

I've been reading these posts. This interests me because I have recently acquiresd a semi auto that is not plugged. Remington 11-48. Where can I buy a plug? Are they universal? Do you just open the magazine and pop it in? What does PERMANENTLY plugged mean? Can I just put in a, say, wooden dowel? I mean if it's that simple would a simple dowel be deemed permanent? I can easily unscrew the magazine end and take out the plug in 2 minutes or less in the field. I just want to follow the law to the letter and not be charged.
 
amber2010 said:
I've been reading these posts. This interests me because I have recently acquiresd a semi auto that is not plugged. Remington 11-48. Where can I buy a plug? Are they universal? Do you just open the magazine and pop it in? What does PERMANENTLY plugged mean? Can I just put in a, say, wooden dowel? I mean if it's that simple would a simple dowel be deemed permanent? I can easily unscrew the magazine end and take out the plug in 2 minutes or less in the field. I just want to follow the law to the letter and not be charged.
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Wooden dowel will work. That is what winchester and remington used prior to plasic. Most plugs that I have seen on winchester, remington, mossberg and browning, benelli and beretta on new guns are removable. That seems to be acceptable in Alberta. I do not have a copy of the regs and exact wording.
 
amber2010 said:
I've been reading these posts. This interests me because I have recently acquiresd a semi auto that is not plugged. Remington 11-48. Where can I buy a plug? Are they universal? Do you just open the magazine and pop it in? What does PERMANENTLY plugged mean? Can I just put in a, say, wooden dowel? I mean if it's that simple would a simple dowel be deemed permanent? I can easily unscrew the magazine end and take out the plug in 2 minutes or less in the field. I just want to follow the law to the letter and not be charged.
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You can buy the plastic plugs that you cut to length for $5-$7 usually. they are better than wood. Wood can hold moisture and cause rust. I wouldn't think you will have to much of a problem with that though.
 
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