Probably not. With a beginner it is usually quite obvious what they are doing wrong.
Being able to show them what the correct move looks like may be of some value, providing they don’t try to consciously replicate what they have seen.
shotkam camera opinions?
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Probably not. With a beginner it is usually quite obvious what they are doing wrong.
Being able to show them what the correct move looks like may be of some value, providing they don’t try to consciously replicate what they have seen.
I think it could be a good to show the new shooter what is really happening. When I was starting it took me a long time to believe that you really had to lead birds as much as you do.
Brad.
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I tried a shotkam out today for the first time.
To start with, the front of the cam is to be (according to instructions) no further back from the muzzle than ten inches, presumable this is so that you don't get too much barrel (muzzle) in the top of the pic. I mounted this one exactly ten inches back and I can see the bottom of the barrels in some pics but not all of them. I'd like to try it further back just for kicks as the weight out front is noticeable and no doubt will affect some people's swings. I shoot a heavy gun and I did notice the extra weight and I don't think it affected me still, I'd like to get the weight back as far as possible away from the muzzle.
We viewed the video's on an Ipad after a few shots and the definition is impressive to say the least. The target is well defined and I'm happy to say that the cross hairs showed no canting of the gun as I shot! It's really noticeable when the shot is taken as the cross hairs jiggle slightly from the recoil, there's a large blur as the pellets and wad burst from the muzzle and a few frames later you see the shot string and wad all flying towards the target. It takes several frames for the shot to reach the target, especially when we shot some 40 yard crosser's, but I was somewhat disappointed that when the shot column reached the target, the pellets were getting somewhat difficult to see. We were shooting shells with #8 shot and I found myself wondering if using #7.5 shot and having the sun at my back might show the shot string a bit better, dunno. You can definitely see what part of the target gets hit if you don't center it, the back edge comes off or the front edge, maybe the left or right, even if you can't see the pellet string it's pretty evident where it is if the target breaks just by the way it breaks.
Is it a good tool for a shooter who wants to improve their scores, yes, no, maybe... depends..... It's definitely a lot of fun to play around with! I think there would be lots of invaluable information there for someone just starting out shooting clays as long as they are reviewing the video's with an experienced instructor. For myself, I've shot for many years and for the most part, I know where I'm missing a target but for those ones that I just can't figure out, this may have some benefits.
To start with, the front of the cam is to be (according to instructions) no further back from the muzzle than ten inches, presumable this is so that you don't get too much barrel (muzzle) in the top of the pic. I mounted this one exactly ten inches back and I can see the bottom of the barrels in some pics but not all of them. I'd like to try it further back just for kicks as the weight out front is noticeable and no doubt will affect some people's swings. I shoot a heavy gun and I did notice the extra weight and I don't think it affected me still, I'd like to get the weight back as far as possible away from the muzzle.
We viewed the video's on an Ipad after a few shots and the definition is impressive to say the least. The target is well defined and I'm happy to say that the cross hairs showed no canting of the gun as I shot! It's really noticeable when the shot is taken as the cross hairs jiggle slightly from the recoil, there's a large blur as the pellets and wad burst from the muzzle and a few frames later you see the shot string and wad all flying towards the target. It takes several frames for the shot to reach the target, especially when we shot some 40 yard crosser's, but I was somewhat disappointed that when the shot column reached the target, the pellets were getting somewhat difficult to see. We were shooting shells with #8 shot and I found myself wondering if using #7.5 shot and having the sun at my back might show the shot string a bit better, dunno. You can definitely see what part of the target gets hit if you don't center it, the back edge comes off or the front edge, maybe the left or right, even if you can't see the pellet string it's pretty evident where it is if the target breaks just by the way it breaks.
Is it a good tool for a shooter who wants to improve their scores, yes, no, maybe... depends..... It's definitely a lot of fun to play around with! I think there would be lots of invaluable information there for someone just starting out shooting clays as long as they are reviewing the video's with an experienced instructor. For myself, I've shot for many years and for the most part, I know where I'm missing a target but for those ones that I just can't figure out, this may have some benefits.
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about it.
I have one and it has helped me a lot with my wing shooting over the past 2 years. Here is a clip off my instagram page...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrvKI2zjb3U/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrvKI2zjb3U/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Call them direct. With the fathers day sale on, I saved at least 140 canadian. If it slips past Canada customs on its way here, a heck of a lot more than that. We'll see...
Update:
I am very happy with my shotkam purchase!
I won't bore you with all the features and how it works (youtube is a great source of info for that).
What I can share is that since I bought it, I have run my first 75 straight in trap, I have run 50 straight in doubles three times, and my handicap average has gone up into the 90's for the first time in 10 years.
It is a great tool to see exactly what it is that your are doing.
In my case, I was very surprised to learn that I was consistently canting my gun during my preshot routine. The barrels sure looked straight up and down to me, but the proof was in the video that they weren't.
Another thing that was glaringly obvious was that about 1/2 the time I was moving the gun before the target was actually visable coming out of the house. I was anticipating the target path. I needed to WAIT and SEE the bird before moving my gun. I believe this has been the biggest factor in my improved scores.
And just generally, it is very cool to be able to see that shot stream as it heads towards the target and smash a clay into dust because of a well executed shot.
I really got to see the sight picture that results in a VERY hard break.
It also helped me set up my gun. I thought I was centering my pattern on the targets, but the video showed that the pattern was a little low. After fine tuning my adjustable rib, I was getting a lot more targets that were inkballs.
Cheers
J
I am very happy with my shotkam purchase!
I won't bore you with all the features and how it works (youtube is a great source of info for that).
What I can share is that since I bought it, I have run my first 75 straight in trap, I have run 50 straight in doubles three times, and my handicap average has gone up into the 90's for the first time in 10 years.
It is a great tool to see exactly what it is that your are doing.
In my case, I was very surprised to learn that I was consistently canting my gun during my preshot routine. The barrels sure looked straight up and down to me, but the proof was in the video that they weren't.
Another thing that was glaringly obvious was that about 1/2 the time I was moving the gun before the target was actually visable coming out of the house. I was anticipating the target path. I needed to WAIT and SEE the bird before moving my gun. I believe this has been the biggest factor in my improved scores.
And just generally, it is very cool to be able to see that shot stream as it heads towards the target and smash a clay into dust because of a well executed shot.
I really got to see the sight picture that results in a VERY hard break.
It also helped me set up my gun. I thought I was centering my pattern on the targets, but the video showed that the pattern was a little low. After fine tuning my adjustable rib, I was getting a lot more targets that were inkballs.
Cheers
J
