Shots from a cold clean barrel.....two months later.

Unfortunately most would rather a five shot group in one sitting that you can cover with a dime.


Five shot groups for a hunting rifle just aren't necessary IMHO. Give me a rifle that will consistently shoot the first two shots from a cold barrel into a predicatble half inch group at 100 yards and I'll smile the whole hunting trip.

one shot = animal down

two shots = maybe animal down

three shots = someone didn't do their part and maybe a wounded animal.

all the rest = waste of ammo


I have a Model 7 Rem in 7-08 that has a pencil thin barrel. After two shots, especially on a warm day, the barrel is already very warm and will place the third shot a inch to the left, every time. I've spent hours fiddling with it.

Bedding, everything from a fully floating bbl to fully bedded to the end of the stock and several things in between, including pressure pads with 5-6 pounds of upward pressure and even went so far as to install side pressure screws about 4 inches back on the fore end to try to eliminate the leftward drift. Didn't work.

Even recut the crown. Nope didn't do a thing.

It's just the nature of the beast.

I have no qualms hunting with this rifle. I know that if I do my part the little 7 will perform in an exemplary manner for the first two shots.

Ruger #1 rifles are notorious for similar actions.
 
I like to test my hunting rifles by leaving them and ammo outside for a couple hours (so they are both ambient temp like when you hunt) and take one shot every morning or two until you have a 5 shot group of completely cold bore shots. Of course this only or works if you have a range off the back porch lol.
 
I like stable rifles too... knowing where your rifle shoots is comforting.

I shot this target at 300 yards with my 338-06 in an area we don't hunt... on the first day after setting up camp.

One shot in 2010, one shot in 2011.

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Now, that's exactly what I am posting about!

You must have had a good 'smith set that rifle up. ;)

Ted
 
All my hunting rifles are sighted from 3 - 3½" high at 100.
I have used this sighting for over 40 years now.
Makes for easy PBR well out there.
Never missed because my bullet was too high, either!!
Regards, Eagleye.
 
Even @ 3.5" seems kind of high to me?

The bullet is never more than four inches above or below line of sight all the way from the muzzle to over 300 yards. Dead on hold on any big game out to that range. Try it, you'll like it!

I figured a Saskatchewan boy, with all those wide open spaces, would have been doing this forever. ;)

Ted
 
The bullet is never more than four inches above or below line of sight all the way from the muzzle to over 300 yards. Dead on hold on any big game out to that range. Try it, you'll like it!

I figured a Saskatchewan boy, with all those wide open spaces, would have been doing this forever. ;)

Ted

I put mine only 1" high at 100. Tried 3 inches high for awhile but shot over a few small targets a few times and gave up (small stuff like crows and gophers). Forgot to aim low I guess. For big game it doesn't seem to be as important, they almost always get in the way of the bullet.

I even sight in my 22 1" low because I shoot over lots of gophers.

Must be me:)
 
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