Hmm, that's too bad. I was hoping there was just an upper exchange. Ah well. I'll have to hold one in my hands and decide.
Shotshow pics - New products of Mapul,LWRC and KRISS
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Hmm, that's too bad. I was hoping there was just an upper exchange. Ah well. I'll have to hold one in my hands and decide.
Just a few more Kriss images.
Showing the new 16" Carbine version that is geared towards civvie sales (note the absence of the fire selector and the ability to wire internally a pressure switch activated built-in light or laser). On the pedestal's top you can see the upper and lower halves of the SMG version with the buffer off to a side.
Here is the lower, you can see the complex looking bolt/slide release. As well as the actually decent folding cocking handle (press check when extended outwards)
The upper of the SMG and you can barely see the mechanisms of the selector there. also shown are the bolt and the buffer w/linkage. Notice the huge case deflector is mounted by external screws and rests inside the upper. The rear mounted safety completely blocks trigger travel (on the sample gun the safety needed to be 100% in the F position for ANY trigger movement. No 90% or 95% at the F position. A slightly felt detent did hold the safety in place through single/burst/FA action.
At the Gun Store with the provided Kriss and several mags of ammo later. Showing in the background is the results of the 2 round burst. (One flyer from the single shot cam response I mentioned earlier). Note the brass marks on the EoTech which is not good IMHO. While EoTech's are designed for ruggedness, repeatedly hitting it with hundreds and hundreds of brass cannot be good for a consistent zero. It made me think that they need to increase the size of the existing deflector or remachine it with a steeper slope nearer to the top edge. On the stock you can see to gold coloured inserts which hold set screws for the LoP adjustment on the shoulder pad.
Me posing after clearing the Kriss from the 2nd mag of burst firing. I was one of the last people on Day three of the Shot Show and the allen head screws which hold the levers in place were starting to back off on the safety selector. I also pointed this out to them as I have no idea if it can be loctited into place (I couldn't see if the internal safety mechanism it was screwed to was metallic or polymer.
Overall for innovation it is an excellent piece of engineering. From a mass distribution the SMG is well balanced IF you have the front vertical grip for two handed usage. The side profile and the stock are super ugly despite the stock having some small adjustment for LoP. I don't know how well the SMG version would go over for LE/Military/Security sales, the Civvie carbine would make for a truly interesting addition to any multi-gun match as a match for .45 ACP Glocks (Ala Beretta Storm carbine & M92/96 handguns) which is where I think that most style sales would go.
Since Glock handguns are standardized by some 60%+ of the USA's police forces and LE agencies, it could possibly tap a decent market.
Showing the new 16" Carbine version that is geared towards civvie sales (note the absence of the fire selector and the ability to wire internally a pressure switch activated built-in light or laser). On the pedestal's top you can see the upper and lower halves of the SMG version with the buffer off to a side.
Here is the lower, you can see the complex looking bolt/slide release. As well as the actually decent folding cocking handle (press check when extended outwards)
The upper of the SMG and you can barely see the mechanisms of the selector there. also shown are the bolt and the buffer w/linkage. Notice the huge case deflector is mounted by external screws and rests inside the upper. The rear mounted safety completely blocks trigger travel (on the sample gun the safety needed to be 100% in the F position for ANY trigger movement. No 90% or 95% at the F position. A slightly felt detent did hold the safety in place through single/burst/FA action.
At the Gun Store with the provided Kriss and several mags of ammo later. Showing in the background is the results of the 2 round burst. (One flyer from the single shot cam response I mentioned earlier). Note the brass marks on the EoTech which is not good IMHO. While EoTech's are designed for ruggedness, repeatedly hitting it with hundreds and hundreds of brass cannot be good for a consistent zero. It made me think that they need to increase the size of the existing deflector or remachine it with a steeper slope nearer to the top edge. On the stock you can see to gold coloured inserts which hold set screws for the LoP adjustment on the shoulder pad.
Me posing after clearing the Kriss from the 2nd mag of burst firing. I was one of the last people on Day three of the Shot Show and the allen head screws which hold the levers in place were starting to back off on the safety selector. I also pointed this out to them as I have no idea if it can be loctited into place (I couldn't see if the internal safety mechanism it was screwed to was metallic or polymer.
Overall for innovation it is an excellent piece of engineering. From a mass distribution the SMG is well balanced IF you have the front vertical grip for two handed usage. The side profile and the stock are super ugly despite the stock having some small adjustment for LoP. I don't know how well the SMG version would go over for LE/Military/Security sales, the Civvie carbine would make for a truly interesting addition to any multi-gun match as a match for .45 ACP Glocks (Ala Beretta Storm carbine & M92/96 handguns) which is where I think that most style sales would go.
Since Glock handguns are standardized by some 60%+ of the USA's police forces and LE agencies, it could possibly tap a decent market.
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Well, you have to sell a sh!tload more than "more than a few" to avoid going broke.
