Shotty dilemma

Simon

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Hi guys, im new to the shotgun world and im currently looking for a pump action. Preferably with 7 or 8 shot magazine.

Here is the offer I saw on the net.

Win 1300 defender @ 375 $
Mossberg 500 persuader with 20 in cannon/8 shot mag @ 275 $
Maverick 88 security @ 215 $
Norc 870 @ 350
Rem 870 I dont know how much the are sold


I want somthing rugged that will last, I dont want to spent above 400.

The 1300 would be a good choice, what do you think ?
 
the 870 is 359$ at wholesale sports...i believe it to be a better built shotgun then the defender, and there are a larger variety and manufactures of aftermarket parts.

on the other hand the defender has a quiker,smoother cycling... it's almost like a "semi-auto-pump"

both are great, just depends what you prefer....

here's a tread i started a while back:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39890

 
I'll go with the 870 from wholesale sport. The 7 shot capacity with 18'' barrel.

Do the 18 '' inch barrel make it a restricted ?

The second one kick ass
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Simon said:
I'll go with the 870 from wholesale sport. The 7 shot capacity with 18'' barrel.

Do the 18 '' inch barrel make it a restricted ?

The second one kick ass
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Nope. Only way a pump action is going to be restricted in Canada is if it was imported with an OAL below 26 inches.
 
I have a friend who originally used his Defender in competition. It's perfomance was far less than flawless, he now shoots a Mossberg with flawless performance. I just sold my Mossberg M500 ATP6SP after 22 years use in hunting and competion. I wouldn't recommend anything else, except the Winchester M97 that I use for Cowboy Action.
 
I have a 1300 "Practical" Defender... these series of shotgun are easily the smoothest cycling shotguns of this genre (econo models). The 1300 has yet fail in any way and can clear the hulls even when you slowly pump the slide (has a spring that is compressed and "pops" the hull regardless). The 1300 will also toss hulls like a semi-auto if you don't hold the front, this isn't practical but I wanted to let you know how smooth these shotguns are to cycle.

The 1300 practical probably has the nicest finish. The barrel length is 22" and it does accept chokes!! (bonus!)
Oh yeah, the tube holds 7 2-3/4" shells with 1 in the chamber being 8.
It's designed to be the all around do everything serve every purpose shotgun.

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http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/catalog/detail.asp?cat_id=512&type_id=207&cat=012C

I just got a modified choke and limbsaver for it. I will shoot some trap with it this weekend for fun :)

Negatives: The safety is kinda sucky - It only goes "Safe" with the bolt open (but of course can be made to fire in any mode after that). FYI: Proper slung carry of these shotguns from what I have read is muzzle down and on the left side of the shooter.

However, you cannot go wrong with any shotgun you are looking at. All of the shotguns you mentioned are fine. I've never owned a Mossberg (but would) - I also like the 870's (have owned 3 in my life) but I dislike the Express finish - get a Wingmaster if you can.

Final thought: Seriously get something with a Choke (or something you can get another barrel for afterwards). Eventually you will become bored of a shotgun which can't shoot trap/skeet - that is where true shotgun fun is to be had (I can't say hunting as I have not - yet) :)
 
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G37 said:
Eventually you will become bored of a shotgun which can't shoot trap/skeet - that is where true shotgun fun is to be had (I can't say hunting as I have not - yet) :)

G37,

I don't know where to start.

You're right about a lot of things, not the least of which is how much fun can be had at the trap range. If you know someone with a portable flinger, try shooting trap at your very own improvised trap range - coming to a hillside near you. You can make up your own shooting games, practise shots that you find difficult until you master them, all in a comfortable, informal environment.

I am sorry to have to be the one to do this to your budget, but you HAVE to try wingshooting. I don't care if it's waterfowl or upland, you haven't lived until you've hunted birds. They're two different experiences altogether, but both well worth the effort.

Hunting wetlands is more of a hide and wait kind of hunt. Upland is the opposite - lots of walking. Generally, the guns used for migratory birds are completely different from those used for upland hunting. But, that's only because folks seem to think that steel shot is a given. Far from it. Tungsten matrix has similar deformity and density to lead, so it can be shot from any nitro proofed gun.

Hunting upland is less restrictive in terms of what you can use. Because lead shot is legal, you see more old SXS and pump guns in the field and bush. No matter what, if you have any shotgun, it can be adapted to the hunt. Once you get started, though, you'll quickly find that you want a selection of guns so that you can adapt to the conditions of a particular hunt.

I prefer upland, myself, but that's because I like to hunt for the birds more so than wait for them. That, and I find the taste of grouse to be better than, say, duck. I have a personal bias that won't let me kill the bird unless I'm going to eat it, so grouse and pheasant and the like get all my attention these days.

I think it's Claybuster who has a tag line on his posts that goes something like "Appreciating a fine shotgun is life's way of telling you that you don't earn enough money." Ain't it the truth! If you factor in all your costs, pound for pound wild bird meat is the most expensive meat on the planet.

Next season can never come fast enough for me. And that's where trap shooting comes in real handy.

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